Tony Snow comments on Bush's bipartisan nature

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The discussion centers around comments made by Tony Snow regarding President Bush's approach to bipartisanship and his administration's strategies. Participants explore the implications of Snow's statements, the political context surrounding Bush's presidency, and potential scenarios involving key figures in the administration. The conversation includes elements of political commentary, speculation about future actions, and critiques of past decisions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about Snow's claim that Bush has been reaching out to Democrats, questioning the sincerity of such statements.
  • There are suggestions that Snow's comments may be part of a performance or strategy, with one participant humorously proposing that he is auditioning for a comedic role.
  • Concerns are raised about Bush's loyalty to his party and the potential political maneuvers involving Cheney and other administration members, including the idea of pardons and resignations.
  • Participants discuss the implications of a potential change in leadership, speculating on the succession of vice presidents and the political landscape that could result from such changes.
  • Some participants reference historical precedents for vice presidential succession, highlighting the complexities of the political situation.
  • There is a recurring theme of uncertainty regarding Bush's ability to achieve legislative goals in the remaining time of his presidency, particularly concerning immigration and education reforms.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of Snow's statements or the potential political strategies discussed. Multiple competing views remain regarding the effectiveness of Bush's bipartisanship efforts and the implications of various political scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical political events and constitutional amendments, but there is no resolution on the accuracy of these references or their applicability to the current discussion.

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Quite possibly one of his most disingenuous statements ever.

"Bush wants to go back to the Texas model. He's always reached out. He's been trying over the last couple of years with limited success," Snow said."

How he can make a claim like that with a straight face is beyond me.
 
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Keep in mind he also mentioned how Bush was disappointed, because he thought the republicans had a solid game plan and could hold onto the house.

You know he's been practicing these lines for a month
 
Oh, I get it. Snow is auditioning for his next job -

Stand-up Comedian. :smile:

But his sarcasm is too subtle, most Americans won't get it. :biggrin:
 
Apost8 said:
How he can make a claim like that with a straight face is beyond me.

Wed Nov 1, 4:46 PM ET

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Wednesday he wants Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney to remain with him until the end of his presidency, extending a job guarantee to two of the most-vilified members of his administration [continued]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

I don't know why anyone has believed anything he has said for last six+ years.
 
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If Bush has any brains and any loyalty to his party, he should ditch Cheney and pardon him so that he cannot be prosecuted for his misdeeds. That way, if Bush gets impeached, Cheney is in the clear, the new VP becomes president and Nancy Pelosi only succeeds to VP, where she can effectively be shut out of the process. Is that sufficiently Rovian?
 
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Wouldn't the new President simply appoint a new VP. I think the speaker can succeed only to the office of President.
 
Bush is more likely to get an immigration bill more to his liking now, though. Something probably a little more sensible than a fence. The Republican House was the major obstacle, since the Senate bill was at least a start.

I'm at a little bit of a loss to figure out any other goals whose chances have improved. Perhaps there's a little bit better of a chance of getting something on education to salvage his No Child Left Behind program; something close enough to be called a revision to his plan rather than a complete scrapping.

Hard to say with only two years left. I think the best thing that happened to Clinton was a Republican congress, but that happened only two years into Clinton's term - he had to adjust or be a one term president.
 
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If Bush has any brains and any loyalty to his party, he should ditch Cheney and pardon him so that he cannot be prosecuted for his misdeeds. That way, if Bush gets impeached, Cheney is in the clear, the new VP becomes president and Nancy Pelosi only succeeds to VP, where she can effectively be shut out of the process.
You missed a Constitutional Amendment somewhere along the way. This happened before.

Agnew resigned. Nixon appointed a new VP in Ford. Nixon resigned. Ford became President and appointed Rockefeller as VP.
 
How about Cheney resigns and Rice becomes VP.

Then Bush resigns and Rice become Pres, and Pelosi VP. I wonder what Hillary would think. :rolleyes:
 
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Astronuc said:
How about Cheney resigns and Rice becomes VP.

Then Bush resigns and Rice become Pres, and Pelosi VP. I wonder what Hillary would think. :rolleyes:
I'm speechless. :smile: :smile:
 
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Astronuc said:
How about Cheney resigns and Rice becomes VP.

Then Bush resigns and Rice become Pres, and Pelosi VP. I wonder what Hillary would think. :rolleyes:
That would allow Bush to get a pardon, too, although that wouldn't carry much weight with the Hague.
 
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Apost8 said:
"Bush wants to go back to the Texas model. He's always reached out. He's been trying over the last couple of years with limited success," Snow said."
Aw, c'mon...he did ASK if they were with him or against him.
 

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