Topology of Aharonov Bohm Effect - Lewis Ryder's QFT book.

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The discussion revolves around the topological characterization of the configuration space in the Aharonov-Bohm effect as presented in Lewis Ryder's Quantum Field Theory book. Participants explore the implications of representing this space as the direct product of a line and a circle, specifically \(\mathbb{R}^1 \times S^1\), and seek clarification on the underlying topology concepts.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests an explanation of the direct product equivalence in the context of the Aharonov-Bohm experiment's configuration space.
  • Another participant suggests using polar coordinates to understand the topology of the punctured plane, noting that removing a point leads to a space that can be covered by coordinates that reveal its topological equivalence to a cylinder.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the clarification and seeks additional references for learning about topology without excessive formalism.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to Nakahara's "Geometry, Topology and Physics" as a resource for further study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the topological equivalence of the punctured plane to a cylinder, but there is no consensus on the best approach to learning the necessary topology concepts, as one participant expresses a lack of background in the subject.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of topology, with one indicating they are concurrently studying the subject but feel behind. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of the topological concepts involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the intersection of quantum field theory and topology, particularly those seeking to understand the Aharonov-Bohm effect and its implications in a less formal context.

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Hi,

I am reading through Section 3.4 of Lewis Ryder's QFT book, where he makes the statement,

The configuration space of the Bohm-Aharonov experiment is the plane [itex]\mathbb{R}^2[/itex] with a hole in, and this is topologically, the direct product of the line [itex]\mathbb{R}^1[/itex] and the circle [itex]S^1[/itex]: [itex]\mathbb{R}^1 \times \mathbb{S}^1[/itex].

This makes some sense intuitively, but can someone please explain this direct product equivalence to me as I do not have a firm background in topology (unfortunately, I need some of it for a project so I am reading it as I go along -- a bad idea, but I have no time :().

Specifically, how does this direct product come about?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Think about the plane in polar coordinates: [itex]ds^2 = dr^2 + r^2 d\theta^2[/itex]. If you remove the point r=0 then you can cover the the remaining space with the coordinates [itex]-\infty < u < \infty[/itex] ([itex]r = e^u[/itex]) and [itex]\theta[/itex]. The metric is then [itex]ds^2 = e^{2u} (du^2 + d\theta^2 )[/itex]. The appearance of this overall prefactor in the metric means that the plane with a point removed is not only topologically equivalent but also conformally equivalent to a cylinder [itex]\mathbb{R}_u \times S^1_\theta[/itex]. In plain terms, by locally deforming the punctured plane you can endow it with the metric of a flat cylinder which should make the topological equivalence clear.
 
Thanks Physics Monkey, that small substitution step helped quite a bit. Can you suggest some good references where I could learn more about these things without getting too caught up in formalism (which I have appreciation for, but just no time :frown:). Ryder makes all these statements which I am sure make sense if one thinks about them the way you suggest, but that does require some background in topology which I lack (I am concurrently reading topology but I am way behind all this.)
 
Try Nakahara: Geometry, Topology and Physics
 

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