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The discussion revolves around a torque problem involving a heavy-duty uniform trap door hinged at one side. The original poster presents a scenario with specific parameters, including mass, length, and moment of inertia, and poses three questions related to the forces and angular motion of the door.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of torque and its relation to angular acceleration and velocity. There are attempts to apply torque equations and moment of inertia to find solutions for the questions posed.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the approach to calculating forces and torques, suggesting corrections to the original poster's attempts. There is ongoing clarification regarding the use of trigonometric functions in the calculations, particularly the distinction between sine and cosine in the context of torque.

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Participants note the importance of visualizing the problem and ensuring that the force and displacement are perpendicular when calculating torque. There is an emphasis on the need for the original poster to show their work and understanding of the concepts involved.

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In a floor there is a heavy duty uniform trap door that is hinged at one side the door has a mass if M = 25 kg a length from hinge to edge of L = 1.0 m, and rotational moment of inertia I = (ML^2)/3= 8.33 kg*m^2.

Question 1:
What upward Force must be applied to handle at the edge of the door in order to hold it stationary with an angle of 60 with respect to the floor?

Question 2:
The door released and allowed to swing closed. immediately after release what is the angular acceleration of the door?

Question 3:
What angular velocity does the door have just before it slams shut?

The Attempt at a solution
for question 1:

T= r.m.g.sin(@)
= 0.5 m x 25 kg x 9.8 m/s^2 x sin 60
= 106.09 N.m

for question 2:
T= I.alfa
106.09 = 8.33 . alfa

alfa = 12.74 m/s^2

I really don't know how to do the question 3.

is this seems ok so far to you. thanks.
 

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i did the changes. can you please look at it again?
 
For question 1, set the sum of the torques of all forces (the weight and the unknown force F) equal to zero with respect to the hinge. You can calculate the force F from this equation. It seems you didn't do the trig part correctly in part 2. Regarding question 3, you can use energy conservation.
 
can you please tell me in detail what i should use in question 2 and in question 3?
 
kenau_reveas said:
can you please tell me in detail what i should use in question 2 and in question 3?

Ok, let's go for question 2 first. You wrote down the equation T = I\cdot \alpha. The only torque comes from the weight. You know the moment of inertia of the door around the hinge, so you can calculate the angular acceleration easily.
 
That is what i have done in the question 2. right? i know the torque and I both and then based on it i found alfa.
 
kenau_reveas said:
That is what i have done in the question 2. right? i know the torque and I both and then based on it i found alfa.

Yes, but as I mentioned, you missed the trig. The torque equals T = mg \cdot \frac{L}{2}\cdot \cos\alpha.
 
i have used sin (@) in first one. does my first question seems right to you? and do i have to define T again in question 2?
 
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can anyone help me with this one?
 
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As radou has said above, you should use cosine and NOT sine for question one. If you are finding it difficult to visualise, then draw a triangle composed of the horizontal, the tap door and the force. Remember that you need to force and the displacement from the pivot to be perpendicular. This applies to both question one and two.
 

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