Tough Energy problem Law of conservation of energy

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving the conservation of energy, specifically regarding a ball thrown straight down. The ball, weighing 10.0g, is thrown from a height of 2.0m and strikes the floor at a speed of 7.5 m/s. The original speed of the ball was calculated to be 4.13 m/s. Additionally, it was determined that if 30% of the ball's energy is transformed into thermal energy during the collision, the new height reached by the ball is approximately 2.0m, confirming that the ball does not return to its original height due to energy loss.

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Homework Statement


Bill throws a 10.0g (0.0100kg) straight down froma height of 2.0m. The ball strikes the floor at a speed of 7.5 m/s.
a) what was the original speed of the ball?
b) if 30% of the balls energy is transformed in thermal energy during the collision with the floor, find the new height reached by the ball.

Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{1}{2}mv^2 + mgh = \frac{1}{2}mv'^2 + mgh'[/tex]
[tex]\sum{E} = \sum{E'}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


A) i solved this fairly easily and got the right answer.

[tex]v = \sqrt{\frac{2\left(\frac{1}{2}mv'^2 - mgh\right)}{m}}[/tex]

v initial = 4.13 m/s

B) this is the toughy...[/color]

The answer is supposed to be 2.0 m. i attempted to rearrange the question including the initial kinetic energy + initial potential = end potential and solve for h. but i didnt get it. A friend of mine told me i don't need to include work done by NC forces in this equation. i think i got 1.7m, i know that if i just have initial potential energy = to kinetic energy @ the point of collision.. when losing 30% of energy, it isn't supposed to reach the same height correct? Which leads be to believe that the person throwing the ball supplied the additional 30% energy to return it to the 2.0m height. I don't understand how to mathmatically show how to solve to get h' = 2.0m..

Thanks,
Senjai
 
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I get 2.01 m for (b). I just did
E = .7*.5*m*v^2 = .7*.5*.01*7.5^2 = .1969 J
.28125 = mgh
 

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