Traditional integration of X^3

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x^3 over specified limits a and b, with the original poster attempting to prove the integral's value using a traditional method involving Riemann sums. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on integration techniques.

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  • The original poster describes their method of dividing the area under the curve into rectangles and calculating the area as n approaches infinity. They express frustration over not arriving at the correct result. Other participants suggest posting calculations to identify errors and provide insights into the Riemann sum approach for x^3.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the integration process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of summations and the potential simplification of the problem by first finding the integral from 0 to c before applying the limits a and b.

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The original poster indicates difficulty in achieving the correct answer despite successfully applying the traditional method to other integrals. There is an implicit assumption that the method should yield consistent results across different functions.

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Hi,

I'm trying to prove that the integral of x^3 (x cubed) between the limits of a (lower limit) and b (upper limit) is:

(b^4)/4 - (a^4)/4


I'm using the traditional method of dividing the area into n rectangles (where n tends to infinity). Hence the width of 1 rectangle is (b-a)/n

The x coordinate (left side of each thin rectangle) of any rectangle is: a + (k-1) * ((b-a)/n)


I can prove other integrations using this 'traditional' approach but cannot get the correct answer here.


Does anyone have a link to the proof or can provide it?


Thanks. This is driving me mad.
 
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Maybe you could post your calculation that gave you the wrong answer.
 
So you divide the area into N rectangles width ##\Delta x : N\Delta x = b-a##
The area of the nth rectangle is ##A_n=(x_n)^3\Delta x:x_n=a+n\Delta x##

The area between a and b is the sum:$$A=\frac{b-a}{N}\sum_{n=0}^N \left(a+n\frac{b-a}{N}\right)^3 $$ ... expand the cubic and sum each term separately.
Then take the limit as ##N\to\infty##

This what you tried?
Where did you get stuck?

Or just google for "riemann sum for x^3" ;)
 
axe34 said:
Hi,

I'm trying to prove that the integral of x^3 (x cubed) between the limits of a (lower limit) and b (upper limit) is:

(b^4)/4 - (a^4)/4


I'm using the traditional method of dividing the area into n rectangles (where n tends to infinity). Hence the width of 1 rectangle is (b-a)/n

The x coordinate (left side of each thin rectangle) of any rectangle is: a + (k-1) * ((b-a)/n)


I can prove other integrations using this 'traditional' approach but cannot get the correct answer here.


Does anyone have a link to the proof or can provide it?


Thanks. This is driving me mad.

It is probably a lot less messy to first get ##F(c) =\int_0^c x^3 \, dx## using the traditional approach, then getting your answer as ##F(b) - F(a)## (assuming ##0 < a < b##). To get ##F(c)## you just need to perform summations of the form ##\sum_{n=1}^N n^3##.
 

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