How Does a Galilean Transformation Affect the Wave Function?

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The discussion focuses on applying a Galilean transformation to the wave function of a nonrelativistic particle. The transformation involves calculating the new wave function, energy, and momentum using the equations provided. Initially, there was confusion regarding the expected values of energy and momentum after the transformation, but it was clarified that different symbols should be used to avoid confusion. After correctly applying the transformation, the results indicated that the new momentum is p' = p - mv and the new energy is E' = (1/2m)(p - mv)². The final results align with expectations for a Galilean transformation, confirming the calculations.
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Homework Statement


$$\Psi = Ae^{\frac{i}{\hbar}(px-\frac{p^2}{2m}t)}$$
where ##p = \hbar k## and ##E = \hbar \omega = \frac{p^2}{2m}## for a nonrelativistic particle.
Find ##\Psi'(x',t')##, E' and p', under a galilean tranformation.

Homework Equations


$$\Psi'(x',t') = f(x,t)\Psi(x,t)$$
where,
$$f(x,t) = e^{\frac{i}{\hbar}(-mvx + \frac{1}{2}mv^2t)}$$

For the galilean tranformation, ##x' = x - vt## and ##t' = t##

The Attempt at a Solution


When multiplying f and ##\Psi##, the terms in the exponents will add. I am looking for the terms in the exponent that are multiplied by ##\frac{i}{\hbar}##. Since both f and ##\Psi## have ##\frac{i}{\hbar}## in the exponent, this can be factored out. So I only need to add the terms in the exponents ignoring the ##\frac{i}{\hbar}##. This gives
$$-mvx + \frac{1}{2}mv^2t+px-\frac{p^2}{2m}t$$
Since ##E= \frac{p^2}{2m} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2##, the expression becomes
$$-mvx +px$$
From the galilean tranformations, ##p=-mv##, so the expression becomes
$$2px = 2p(x'+vt') = 2px' + 2pvt'$$
I would then expect ##p' = 2p## and ##E' = 2pv##. I initially expected E' to be E and p' to be ##-p##. I know my calculated result is wrong, but I cannot figure out where I made a mistake using the tranformation.
 
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doggydan42 said:

Homework Statement


$$\Psi = Ae^{\frac{i}{\hbar}(px-\frac{p^2}{2m}t)}$$
where ##p = \hbar k## and ##E = \hbar \omega = \frac{p^2}{2m}## for a nonrelativistic particle.
Find ##\Psi'(x',t')##, E' and p', under a galilean tranformation.

Homework Equations


$$\Psi'(x',t') = f(x,t)\Psi(x,t)$$
where,
$$f(x,t) = e^{\frac{i}{\hbar}(-mvx + \frac{1}{2}mv^2t)}$$

For the galilean tranformation, ##x' = x - vt## and ##t' = t##

The Attempt at a Solution


When multiplying f and ##\Psi##, the terms in the exponents will add. I am looking for the terms in the exponent that are multiplied by ##\frac{i}{\hbar}##. Since both f and ##\Psi## have ##\frac{i}{\hbar}## in the exponent, this can be factored out. So I only need to add the terms in the exponents ignoring the ##\frac{i}{\hbar}##. This gives
$$-mvx + \frac{1}{2}mv^2t+px-\frac{p^2}{2m}t$$
Since ##E= \frac{p^2}{2m} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2##, the expression becomes
$$-mvx +px$$
From the galilean tranformations, ##p=-mv##, so the expression becomes
$$2px = 2p(x'+vt') = 2px' + 2pvt'$$
I would then expect ##p' = 2p## and ##E' = 2pv##. I initially expected E' to be E and p' to be ##-p##. I know my calculated result is wrong, but I cannot figure out where I made a mistake using the tranformation.
Watch out, you are using the same symbols for different things, which leads to difficulties. Let's call ##E_i,p_i## the initial energy en momentum. When you do your boost, the ##mv## and ##1/2 mv^2## appearing in your ## f(x,t)## are not in general equal to the initial values so you must use different symbols to distinguish them. Also, why would you expect ##E'=E##? The kinetic energy is different in different frames.
 
nrqed said:
Watch out, you are using the same symbols for different things, which leads to difficulties. Let's call ##E_i,p_i## the initial energy en momentum. When you do your boost, the ##mv## and ##1/2 mv^2## appearing in your ## f(x,t)## are not in general equal to the initial values so you must use different symbols to distinguish them. Also, why would you expect ##E'=E##? The kinetic energy is different in different frames.

So if I use separate p's, then in the formula:
$$-mvx + \frac{1}{2}mv^2t+px-\frac{p^2}{2m}t = (p-mv)x + (\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{p^2}{2m})t$$
After applying the galilean tranformation and some simplification, I arrived at
$$(p-mv)x' + (pv-\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{p^2}{2m}) = (p-mv)x' - \frac{1}{2m}(p-mv)^2t'$$
So that gives ##p' = p-mv## and ##E' = \frac{1}{2m}(p-mv)^2##
 
doggydan42 said:
So if I use separate p's, then in the formula:
$$-mvx + \frac{1}{2}mv^2t+px-\frac{p^2}{2m}t = (p-mv)x + (\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{p^2}{2m})t$$
After applying the galilean tranformation and some simplification, I arrived at
$$(p-mv)x' + (pv-\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{p^2}{2m}) = (p-mv)x' - \frac{1}{2m}(p-mv)^2t'$$
So that gives ##p' = p-mv## and ##E' = \frac{1}{2m}(p-mv)^2##
Perfect! Do you see that this is indeed what one would expect?
 
nrqed said:
Perfect! Do you see that this is indeed what one would expect?
Yes, I noticed it is what you expect for the momentum and energy with a galilean tranformation. Thank you!
 

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