Transmission Grating: Determining the Correct Order of Diffraction

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to diffraction and transmission gratings, specifically focusing on determining the correct order of diffraction using the grating equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the grating equation and the relationship between the number of lines and the order of diffraction. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between the number of lines and the order of diffraction, as well as the implications of changing these parameters on the angles of diffraction.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into the relationship between the angle and the order of diffraction, while others are still questioning the correctness of their assumptions based on the mark scheme.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the definitions of variables and how they relate to the angles of diffraction, particularly in the context of small versus larger angles. The mark scheme's correctness is also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


This is a question we have been doing at school. The answer is C. I think A is correct as well.
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Homework Equations


I have used nλ=dsinθ and put in test values.
I guess I should be able to do this by just 'inspecting the question' but the sin confused me. So I put in some test values as below.

The Attempt at a Solution


When I used 600nm for wavelength and 100,000 lines per meter the first order and second orders are at 3.4398 degrees 6.8921degrees. Doubling N then gives 6.8921 and 13.8865 degrees. This suggests that a is right... so what am I doing wrong please

 

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I think you are confusing the number of lines ##N## with the order of a given line. Suppose you were to write the grating equation as ##d \sin \theta = m \lambda## where ##m## is the order of the line (here ##m=2##). The separation between lines, ##d##, is halved when the number of lines ##N## is doubled.
 
Thanks for your reply. I don't think i am confusing N and n. When N is doubled, d is halves like you say. Small n (or m if you like) is the feinge number. So ...

For fixed N then theta for n=1 seems to be half what it for n=2... ie a is right... which it isn't according to the mark scheme
 
But... i have sorted it now ... a is wrong because the angle doesn't necessarily double as you go from n=1 to n=2 - at small angles it approximately does, at larger angles (like in the diagram) it doesn't
 
So which answer do you think is correct?
 
C -according to the mark scheme!
 
(c) is indeed the correct answer. Do you see why?
 

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