Transverse Wave equation for a string of changing length?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the transverse wave equation for guitar strings, emphasizing the limitations of traditional approximations such as small angle and small slope assumptions. It highlights that the string's length changes when plucked, as it behaves more like a spring with variable tension rather than a fixed length. The conversation also notes that while classical models effectively describe string behavior under small transverse motions, they fail to account for the complexities introduced by stretching and non-perpendicular motion of string segments. This indicates a need for more advanced modeling techniques to accurately represent the dynamics of guitar strings.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of transverse wave equations
  • Familiarity with the physics of musical instruments, specifically guitars
  • Knowledge of spring mechanics and tension variations
  • Basic principles of wave motion and restoring forces
NEXT STEPS
  • Research advanced models of wave equations that include variable tension, such as nonlinear wave equations
  • Explore the impact of string stretching on pitch variation in string instruments
  • Learn about computational methods for simulating wave motion in strings using software tools
  • Investigate the relationship between string length changes and sound production in bowed instruments
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, music instrument designers, acoustic engineers, and anyone interested in the detailed mechanics of guitar strings and their wave behavior.

czechman45
Messages
12
Reaction score
0
I'm trying to learn more about the physics of guitars. I followed through the derivation of the transverse wave equation and that makes sense, but it seems like several of the simplifying assumptions might not apply. There are a lot of approximations with small angles and small slopes. I don't know how small is considered 'small', but I'm willing to take those on faith. The one that I think might make a difference is the assumption that the string elements have no longitudinal motion. The length between the bridge and the nut on a guitar stays the same but the string is not fixed at these points. It runs over then and then secures to the guitar further along it's length. When the string is plucked the string has to either stretch and/or recruit some of the string from these other portions (the parts not originally between the bridge and nut). This is changing the length of the string. Has there been work in the wave equation to account for this? Does it make a difference?

Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I think the OP is saying that a) the motion of segments of the string is really not perpendicular to the rest position of the string, and b) the small angle approximation, leading to zero change in string length due to stretching is not strictly correct.

These are just traditional approximations in deriving the linear wave equation which make the system tractable. They do capture the behavior of the string very well, particularly for small transverse motions, and qualitatively under most realistic situations (where you haven't broken the guitar!). People have of course considered what happens when you choose NOT to make these approximations, but the first thing that happens is that the restoring force has a sinusoidal function instead of a constant (spring) coefficient times displacement. For evaluating this system, computers are very useful. :)

It is true however that in a real guitar, the stretching term does matter. You can hear an example of this when you pluck the string very hard and the pitch changes (same goes for a bowed instrument). The deviation from purely 1-d motion of each string "element" is less noticeable.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
41K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K