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The discussion revolves around the experiences of individuals transitioning between physics and mathematics, highlighting personal journeys, challenges with math education, and the interplay between the two disciplines. It includes reflections on teaching methods, learning strategies, and the perceived relationship between math and physics.

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  • Some participants emphasize the critical role of mathematics in science and advocate for a revolution in math education at early stages.
  • One participant shares their journey of initially loving math and later discovering physics, noting the assumptions in mathematical derivations like the Lorentz Transformations.
  • Another participant expresses a long-standing interest in science and physics but struggled with math throughout school, believing they were unable to learn it due to traditional teaching methods.
  • This participant later found success in learning math through alternative approaches as an adult, which has enabled them to pursue physics and proof writing.
  • There is a repeated sentiment from one participant about overcoming challenges in math education and the realization that they could learn math effectively outside of traditional schooling methods.

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Participants generally share personal experiences and challenges related to math and physics, but there is no consensus on the effectiveness of current teaching methods or the best approaches to learning these subjects.

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Participants express varying degrees of confidence and ability in mathematics, influenced by their educational experiences and teaching methods encountered. The discussion reflects a range of personal narratives without resolving the broader implications for math education.

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Great Insight! No doubt math is critical for many science professions and that we need a math teaching revolution at our early education years.
 
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Great write up.

It was the opposite for me.

I loved math from the start and majored in applied math,

Later I became interested in physics and marvelled at the explanatory power of math. One that really got to me was the derivation of the Lorentz Transformations from symmetry:
http://www2.physics.umd.edu/~yakovenk/teaching/Lorentz.pdf

You get the feeling its pulled out of the air, but really a close examination shows there are assumptions being made - its just for some reason when using math they are so natural you miss it. Math is strange like that.

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Bill
 
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Thanks for taking the time to write and share this, Dr. Courtney.
 
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Very fine piece of work... commendable !
 
This is very much the position I am in. I've always had a strong interest in science, especially physics, but I thought I'd never be able to study it above the level of semi-popular accounts. I wasn't good at math all through school, (even though I did have a vague interest in it) to the point I thought I was *unable* to learn it.

The irony is, I took honors-level science classes a year ahead of schedule, but I was always a year *behind* schedule in math. The process of trying to do math in school was so tortuous, I thought I was only a "word" person who happened to love science, because reading and writing came effortlessly to me, whereas math didn't. Math was the only subject in which I've ever had test anxiety.

Later experience, after I became an adult, forced me to try different approaches to teaching myself, ultimately proving that I could learn to do math well, just not the way it was taught in school. Now, I have the chance to study physics, and I'm even working at learning how to write proofs.
 
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ComplexVar89 said:
This is very much the position I am in. I've always had a strong interest in science, especially physics, but I thought I'd never be able to study it above the level of semi-popular accounts. I wasn't good at math all through school, (even though I did have a vague interest in it) to the point I thought I was *unable* to learn it.

The irony is, I took honors-level science classes a year ahead of schedule, but I was always a year *behind* schedule in math. The process of trying to do math in school was so tortuous, I thought I was only a "word" person who happened to love science, because reading and writing came effortlessly to me, whereas math didn't. Math was the only subject in which I've ever had test anxiety.

Later experience, after I became an adult, forced me to try different approaches to teaching myself, ultimately proving that I could learn to do math well, just not the way it was taught in school. Now, I have the chance to study physics, and I'm even working at learning how to write proofs.

Keep up the good work!
 
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