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The discussion revolves around finding exact values for trigonometric functions, specifically focusing on inverse trigonometric functions and their relationships to right triangles. Participants are addressing a problem set that includes multiple parts, with particular emphasis on the values of sin-1(2/3), tan-1(0.785), and others.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates sin-1(2/3) and finds it to be approximately 0.785, then attempts to find tan-1(0.785) and other values, expressing uncertainty about exact values.
  • Another participant explains that sin-1(2/3) can be represented in a right triangle context, using Pythagorean theorem to find the adjacent side and subsequently the cotangent value.
  • A later reply confirms the first participant's calculation for sin-1(2/3) after drawing the triangles, but presents different values for the second and third parts, asking if they are correct.
  • Some participants challenge the correctness of the second and third parts, suggesting that the triangle may have been misread and emphasizing the need for showing work to identify errors.
  • Another participant suggests rationalizing the denominator for one of the answers provided, indicating a preference for a more standardized form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correctness of the answers for parts 2b and 1c, as multiple participants express differing views on the calculations and interpretations of the triangles involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact values for these parts.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on geometric interpretations and identities but do not provide complete derivations for all steps, leading to potential gaps in understanding the calculations. The discussion also reflects varying levels of confidence in the interpretations of the triangle setups.

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Hey guys,

I've a few more questions this time around from my problem set:

(Ignore the first question , I only need help with 2a, b,and c.)

Question:
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For the first one, I assessed the inside of the inverse trigonometric function first:

sin^-1 (2/3) = 0.785
Then tan-1(.785) ~ .66577,

Likewise, for b, I got 2.14173 and undefined for c.

However, I am having trouble finding these in exact values. How would I go about doing that? For example, is sin^-1 (2/3) a common trigonometric value I should be committing to memory? Thanks again guys.
 
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Let's look at the first one, and then you can try the others...

$$\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)$$

can represent an angle in a right triangle whose opposite side is 2 and the hypotenuse is 3. So, we need to find the adjacent side $x$, and by Pythagoras we find:

$$x=\sqrt{3^2-2^2}=\sqrt{5}$$

Since the cotangent function is defined as adjacent over opposite, we mat then state:

$$\cot\left(\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)\right)=\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}$$

Can you now use a similar method for the others? With the negative values, use known identities and symmetries.
 
MarkFL said:
Let's look at the first one, and then you can try the others...

$$\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)$$

can represent an angle in a right triangle whose opposite side is 2 and the hypotenuse is 3. So, we need to find the adjacent side $x$, and by Pythagoras we find:

$$x=\sqrt{3^2-2^2}=\sqrt{5}$$

Since the cotangent function is defined as adjacent over opposite, we mat then state:

$$\cot\left(\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{2}{3}\right)\right)=\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}$$

Can you now use a similar method for the others? With the negative values, use known identities and symmetries.
Thanks, I got the same answer for the first one after drawing the triangles out. For the second and third one, I got 5/√ ̅34 and √ ̅15 / 4. Am I on the right track?
 
The second one is incorrect (2b)...but without seeing your work, I can't tell you where you went wrong.
 
I suspect he's misreading the triangle. $$sec\theta = \frac{H}{A}$$, h is the hypotenuse, and a is the adjacent. 1c) is also wrong for the same reason.
 
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Rido12 said:
I suspect he's misreading the triangle. $$sec\theta = \frac{H}{A}$$, h is the hypotenuse, and a is the adjacent.

Yes, I suspect that as well, but I am trying to discourage the habit of simply posting an answer and saying "is that right?" I want to see work and reasoning, this way I can point to where the error is if the result is wrong. :D
 
Rido12 said:
I suspect he's misreading the triangle. $$sec\theta = \frac{H}{A}$$, h is the hypotenuse, and a is the adjacent. 1c) is also wrong for the same reason.

Oh, my bad. Alright, well since drawing out the triangles on a computer is such a hassle, I'll just post the new answers:

I got √ ̅34 /5and 4/√ ̅15

I'm hoping these are right. Thanks guys!
 
Those are correct, but if you really want to, you can rationalize the denominator for 1c).
 

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