Trouble calculating the equilibrium of this object

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equilibrium of a carpenter's square, which is shaped like an L. The original poster is attempting to locate its center of gravity using various methods, including the scalar cross product and area moments.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss breaking the shape into two rectangles to sum moment areas, while others express uncertainty about using the scalar cross product. The original poster questions how to determine the necessary distances from centroids to the origin.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using area moments and clarifying the geometric properties of the rectangles involved. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods and interpretations without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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The problem involves specific dimensions and requires the identification of centroids and distances, which some participants are struggling to define accurately. The original poster has expressed confusion regarding fundamental concepts related to the calculations.

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I was having trouble calculating the equilibrium of this object. I thought I had to solve it using the scalar cross product...but I'm not certain I am on the right track. Can some one help me? This is the question.

A carpenter's square has the shape of an L, where d1 = 19.0 cm, d2 = 6.00 cm, d3 = 6.00 cm, d4 = 11.0 cm. Locate its center of gravity. (Hint: Take (x, y) = (0, 0) at the intersection of d1 and d4)
 
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Sort of, actually d3 is connected to d1, and d1 is the longer side of the carpenter square. The picture looks more like this...



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Rather than using cross products, break up the shape into 2 rectangles, and sum moment areas about each axis separately , where the moment of an area is the area times the perpendicular distance from its centroid to the axis, and where
(A1)x1 + A2(x2) = (A1 + A2)(X_), etc., (which you are familiar with?).
 
Well I was using the equation ((m1)(x1)+(m2)(x2))/(m1+m2)= but i keep getting the wrong answer...using this method how do i find y1, y2, and x1, x2. I know it seems like a real fundamental question but I am still having trouble.
 
kjthesandman said:
Well I was using the equation ((m1)(x1)+(m2)(x2))/(m1+m2)= but i keep getting the wrong answer...using this method how do i find y1, y2, and x1, x2. I know it seems like a real fundamental question but I am still having trouble.
x1, x2, y1, and y2, are the perpendicular distances from the centroids of each area to the origin. For example, one of the rectangles is 19 by 6. For that particular rectangle, since its centroid is at its geometric center, then x1 is 3 and y1 is 9.5. Now find the centroid of the second rectangle, and the corresponding x2 and y2 distances. Be sure to use A1 and A2 for what you are calling m1 and m2.
 

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