Trouble understanding aspect of SHM

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The discussion revolves around understanding the derivation of equations related to Simple Harmonic Motion (SHM), specifically focusing on the negative sign in the equation for projected acceleration. Participants are exploring the relationship between centripetal acceleration and its projection onto a diameter.

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  • Participants are questioning the origin of the negative sign in the projected acceleration equation and discussing the implications of differentiating the cosine function. There is also an exploration of the relationship between centripetal acceleration and the direction of projected acceleration.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and attempting to clarify the reasoning behind the negative sign. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the cosine function in relation to the motion described.

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There is a mention of issues with LaTeX commands not functioning properly, which may affect the clarity of mathematical expressions in the discussion.

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When deriving the basic equations for SHM, you get the
a_c = /omega^2 A
and then continue on to derive
a_x = -a_c cos/theta
I was wondering where the negative sign came from in the equation above. I don't see the need for it, the x component of the centripetal acceleration seems to point in the same direction as the acceleration "projected onto a diameter" already.

ps why aren't my latex commands for omega and theta not working?
 
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I think you need to provide some of the steps, if I am to be of any use. However, I am guessing it's from differentiating cosine twice?
 
That is correct. However I was wondering if anybody knew offhand why the sign on the projected acceleration is the opposite sign of the centripetal acceleration
 
I think it is because, it is described as a standing wave. If you look at the formula and imagine a spring going up and down. It will start by falling (since else it can't bounce up again), so of course the acceleration must be negative.

Then look at your cosine function, which gives a positive result until it reaches Pi/2, at that point it reaches the bottom, and it will start to bounce upwards again, and thus the entire expression gives a positive result, since the cosine becomes negative. It could be helpful to look at the cosine function, while reading this somewhat "bad" explanation, but I hope you get it :-)
 

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