Trouble understanding coordinates for the Lagrangian

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This discussion focuses on understanding the derivation of infinitesimal displacements for particles in spherical coordinates as presented in Landau's mechanics book. The key takeaway is the application of Pythagorean theorem to orthogonal infinitesimal displacements, specifically ##ad\theta## and ##a\sin{\theta} d\phi##. The discussion clarifies that when either angle is held constant, the corresponding displacement vectors are ##\mathbf{E}_{\theta} = a \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_{\theta}## and ##\mathbf{E}_{\phi} = a\sin{\theta} \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_{\phi}##. The final expression for the total infinitesimal displacement is given by $$dl^2 = a^2 d\theta^2 + a^2 \sin^2{\theta} d\phi^2$$, confirming the orthogonality of the displacements.

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Hello, I'm having some trouble understanding this solution provided in Landau's book on mechanics. I'd like to understand how they arrived at the infinitesimal displacement for the particles m1. I appreciate any kind of help regarding this problem, thank you!
 

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It's nothing more than Pythagoras applied to orthogonal infinitesimal displacements ##ad\theta## and ##a\sin{\theta} d\phi##, however if you want a (very slightly) more formal approach in terms of the holonomic basis...

if ##\phi## is held constant then ##\mathbf{E}_{\theta} = \dfrac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial \theta} = a \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_{\theta}## whilst if ##\theta## is held constant then ##\mathbf{E}_{\phi} = \dfrac{\partial \mathbf{r}}{\partial \phi} = a\sin{\theta} \hat{\boldsymbol{e}}_{\phi}##. Since ##\mathbf{E}_{\theta}## and ##\mathbf{E}_{\phi}## are orthogonal you have $$dl^2 = \displaystyle{\sum_i \sum_j }dx^i \mathbf{E}_i \cdot dx^j \mathbf{E}_j= {E_{\theta}}^2 d\theta^2 + {E_{\phi}}^2 d\phi^2 = a^2 d\theta^2 + a^2 \sin^2{\theta} d\phi^2$$
 
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Thank you very much!
 
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I think he did it in spherical coordinates. The infinitesimal motion of m1 can be disassembled into two parts; this disassembly is correct since the displacements in the two directions are small (meaning they are kinda linear) and orthogonal:

Displacement^2 caused by horizontal rotation ##\Omega##:
$$dl^2_{horizontal}=R^2(\Omega\mathrm{dt})^2=a^2\sin^2 \theta(\Omega\mathrm{dt})^2$$

Displacement^2 caused by the rotation of m1 about A in the plane of book:
$$v=r\omega\implies dl^2_{vertical}=(a\mathrm d{\theta})^2$$

Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks, you couldn't have been clearer!
 

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