Tungsten vs Lead for Gamma Radiation Protection

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The discussion centers on the effectiveness of different materials, specifically tungsten and lead, for gamma radiation protection. Participants explore the properties of various dense materials and their potential advantages or disadvantages in shielding applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that tungsten, being denser than lead, could provide better gamma radiation shielding, requiring less material for the same level of protection.
  • Others reference sources indicating that while lead is commonly used, materials like tungsten can offer better dexterity in applications such as gloves used in nuclear medicine labs.
  • One participant mentions osmium as a denser alternative to tungsten, although it is noted to be rare and toxic.
  • Another participant suggests iridium and gold as potential alternatives, with bismuth, platinum, and tantalum also mentioned as options for shielding materials.
  • There are considerations regarding the mechanical properties of tungsten and tantalum, which may make them preferable to lead in certain applications, especially where machining is required.

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Participants express differing views on the best material for gamma radiation protection, with no consensus reached on whether tungsten is definitively superior to lead or if other materials might be better suited for specific applications.

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Participants discuss the properties of various elements without resolving the complexities of their effectiveness in shielding, including factors like toxicity, rarity, and mechanical properties. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the materials' characteristics and their practical applications.

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Hey guys, I'm quite a noob in physics.

Okay, here's my idea: We use lead to protect us from gamma radiation because it's dense enough to somewhat absorb the tiny wavelength.
As I take it, tungsten is more dense than lead, right? Wouldn't it be safer to use tungsten instead of lead? (Looking away from the price aspect, of course...)
 
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Eskir said:
As I take it, tungsten is more dense than lead, right? Wouldn't it be safer to use tungsten instead of lead?

Looks like the answer is yes, in the sense that you need less of it to provide the same shielding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cell

"This shielding can be ensured by the use of lead (common) or materials such as concrete (very large walls are therefore required) or even tungsten..."

"Lead loaded gloves are often used in conjunction with tongs as they offer better dexterity and can be used in low radiation environments (such as hot cells used in hospital nuclear medicine labs). Some companies have developed tungsten loaded gloves which offer greater dexterity than lead loaded gloves, with better shielding than their counterparts..."

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray#Shielding

"Gamma rays are better absorbed by materials with high atomic numbers and high density, although neither effect is important compared to the total mass per area in the path of the gamma ray. For this reason, a lead shield is only modestly better (20–30% better) as a gamma shield, than an equal mass of another shielding material such as aluminium, concrete, water or soil; lead's major advantage is not in lower weight, but rather its compactness due to its higher density."

"When a gamma ray passes through matter, the probability for absorption is proportional to the thickness of the layer, the density of the material, and the absorption cross section of the material. The total absorption shows an exponential decrease of intensity with distance from the incident surface"
 
Osmium is even better (density around 22.6 compared to tungsten at 19.3), but osmium is even rarer than tungsten (and incredibly toxic from what I understand)
 
Iridium might be best, but gold is a good second. Bismuth is sometimes used. Other choices are platinum and tantalum.
 
I've seen some estimates that put the density of Hassium (element 108) around 41!
 
Of course you would have to then shield the Hassium...

Tungsten and Tantalum are sometimes preferred to Lead because of their mechanical properties, e.g. when pieces have to be machined to be put into UHV or inside tight detector housings.
 

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