Two athletes time compensation

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The problem involves two athletes positioned along the Y axis, running parallel to the X axis, with a time difference in their starting signals. The task is to determine reference frames where there is no compensation and where there is real compensation, using Lorentz transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to assume coordinates for the athletes and question the meaning of "no compensation" and "real compensation." Some suggest that the problem may involve finding a frame where the starting guns fire simultaneously, while others express confusion about the implications of the time difference.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem statement and exploring the implications of the time difference. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider starting coordinates and the direction of the reference frame's movement.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that the problem may have translation issues, as it was originally presented in Spanish, which could affect participants' understanding of the terms used.

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Homework Statement


In a reference system S two athletes are aligned at a distance d relative to each other on the Y axis to make a run parallel to the x axis. Two starters, one next to each athlete, shoot their guns out at slightly different times, offsetting the advantage of better athlete. The time difference in S is delta T. For which time difference there will be a reference system S 'in which there is not compensation, and which time difference there is a reference system S' in which there is a real compensation ?.
Determine explicitly the Lorentz transformation that leads to S' suitable for each of the possibilities listed above, calculating the speed of S' to S and the space-time positions (events) of each athlete in the S system.

Homework Equations


Lorentz tranformation Equation

The Attempt at a Solution



I don´t really understand the exercise, but firs I think you must asume that the coordenates of one of the athletes are at the origin, and the other has the displacement d.
r1=(ct1,0,0,0)
r2=(ct2, d,0,0)

When you have two events ussually you use the space time interval

(delta S)^2 =(ct2-ct1)^2-(x2-x1)^2-(y2-y1)^2-(z2-z1)^2

But i don't understant what it means no compensation real compensation?
 
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I don't understand the question either. I think it's asking for a frame where the starting guns fire simultaneously, but the rest is confusing.
 
PeroK said:
I don't understand the question either. I think it's asking for a frame where the starting guns fire simultaneously, but the rest is confusing.
Maybe there are some problem with translation, the problem is in spanish, but I agree, if there is no compensation from S' the two starting guns fire simultaneously, so delta t must be zero. So

Δs^2 < 0
But how I show this?
 
Andremag12 said:
Maybe there are some problem with translation, the problem is in spanish, but I agree, if there is no compensation from S' the two starting guns fire simultaneously, so delta t must be zero. So

Δs^2 < 0
But how I show this?
I'm going offline now but perhaps someone else can help.

You need to think of your starting coordinates and what direction S' needs to move.
 

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