Two Masses, a Pulley, and an Inclined Plane

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The discussion centers on solving a physics problem involving two masses connected by a pulley and an inclined plane. The user calculated the tension (T) for mass m1 (0.700 kg) as 6.72 N and subsequently derived the mass of m2 as 0.88 kg using the ΣFx equation. Feedback from an online program highlighted the importance of correctly identifying the direction of tensions, which are opposite in this scenario. The user sought clarification on the implications of this feedback for their calculations.

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Homework Statement
Block 1, of mass m1 = 0.700 kg , is connected over an ideal (massless and frictionless) pulley to block 2, of mass m2, as shown. For an angle of θ = 30.0 ∘ and a coefficient of kinetic friction between block 2 and the plane of μ = 0.350, an acceleration of magnitude a = 0.200 m/s2 is observed for block 2.

Find the mass of m2.
Relevant Equations
Fnet=ma
T= mg-ma
[m1]ΣFy=m1g-T
[m2]ΣFy=m2gcosΘ-Fn=0
[m2]ΣFx=m2gsinΘ+μFn-T=m2a
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I solved for T on m1 and arrived at 6.72. I plugged that value into the ΣFx equation as shown above (pardon my handwriting) and got a mass of 0.88 kg.

The online program indicated that I needed to check my expression for tension, noting that the two tensions are heading in opposite directions. I don't really understand the significance of that feedback. Any help is much appreciated.
 
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pkreilley said:
Homework Statement:: Block 1, of mass m1 = 0.700 kg , is connected over an ideal (massless and frictionless) pulley to block 2, of mass m2, as shown. For an angle of θ = 30.0 ∘ and a coefficient of kinetic friction between block 2 and the plane of μ = 0.350, an acceleration of magnitude a = 0.200 m/s2 is observed for block 2.

Find the mass of m2.
Relevant Equations:: Fnet=ma
T= mg-ma
[m1]ΣFy=m1g-T
[m2]ΣFy=m2gcosΘ-Fn=0
[m2]ΣFx=m2gsinΘ+μFn-T=m2a

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I solved for T on m1 and arrived at 6.72. I plugged that value into the ΣFx equation as shown above (pardon my handwriting) and got a mass of 0.88 kg.

The online program indicated that I needed to check my expression for tension, noting that the two tensions are heading in opposite directions. I don't really understand the significance of that feedback. Any help is much appreciated.
This is where your problem is
[m2]ΣFx=m2gsinΘ+μFn-T=m2a
Up the incline (direction of acceleration a) is assumed positive as shown on the RHS.
m2gsinΘ and μFn must be negative because they are down the incline
T must be positive because it is up the incline.

Or you could just change the sign of the acceleration in this equation and leave the LHS alone.
 

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