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The discussion revolves around the relationship between proof-based mathematics, specifically Real Analysis, and computational mathematics, particularly Calculus. Participants explore whether a strong understanding of Real Analysis makes Calculus problems trivial and whether knowledge of Real Analysis is necessary for formulating Calculus problems and exercises.

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  • One participant questions if a solid grasp of proof-based math (like Real Analysis) renders computational courses (like Calculus) trivial.
  • Another participant notes that the typical course sequence in the US suggests that solving Calculus problems does not require knowledge of Real Analysis.
  • A different participant clarifies that their inquiry pertains to formulating, rather than solving, Calculus problems.
  • One participant asserts that understanding computations is crucial for proving correctness and that good computation courses are more than just procedural.
  • This participant also expresses that while Real Analysis may not be necessary for basic exercises, a deeper understanding could enhance the formulation of more advanced Calculus problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of Real Analysis for formulating Calculus problems, with some suggesting it is not required for basic exercises while others believe it can be beneficial for more complex problem design. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which Real Analysis impacts the understanding of Calculus.

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There are varying assumptions about the definitions of "formulating" versus "solving" problems, and the discussion does not clarify the specific types of problems being referenced.

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Is it true that if you have a good understanding of proof based math courses( like Real Analysis), courses based in computations( like Calculus) become relatively trivial ? And I have another doubt. Do I need to know Real Analysis to formulate Calculus problems and exercises ? Or, is a rigorous Calculus book enough for this finality ?
 
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The usual sequence of courses in the US are Calculus 1,2,3 and then a year later Real Analysis so that says that solving Calculus problems doesn't require RA.
 
My question is not about solving Calculus problems. It's about formulating(creating) Calculus problems.
 
flamengo said:
s it true that if you have a good understanding of proof based math courses( like Real Analysis), courses based in computations( like Calculus) become relatively trivial ?
No. How would you prove that your computations are correct? Good courses about computation are more than cookbook classes.
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Do I need to know Real Analysis to formulate Calculus problems and exercises ? Or, is a rigorous Calculus book enough for this finality ?
No, I don't think so, not for the "drill" exercises in any case. However, the more you are "above" the subject, the better. Also, I could certainly think of more advanced calculus problems that require an understanding of real analysis for their proper design.
 
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