Two sphere collision -- What's the speed?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two solid spheres colliding elastically after being released from a position where they were initially in contact. The first sphere has a known mass and kinetic energy just before the collision, and the question seeks to determine the speed of the first sphere after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy before and after the collision, with one participant attempting to find the speed of the first sphere using kinetic energy. Others suggest using conservation laws to relate speeds before and after the collision.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the necessary equations for elastic collisions, including conservation of kinetic energy and momentum. There is an acknowledgment of needing to isolate variables to find the speeds after the collision, but no consensus has been reached on the specific approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of not having the speeds after the collision and the need to use both conservation equations to solve for the unknowns. There is a reference to a Newton's Cradle as a conceptual analogy, indicating a shared understanding of the principles involved.

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Homework Statement


Two solid spheres hung by thin threads from a horizontal support (Figure 1) are initially in contact with each other. Sphere 1 has inertia m1 = 0.040 kg , and sphere 2 has inertia m2 = 0.10 kg. When pulled to the left and released, sphere 1 collides elastically with sphere 2. At the instant just before the collision takes place, sphere 1 has kinetic energy K1 = 0.098 J .What is the speed of sphere 1 after the collision?
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Homework Equations


k=1/2mv^2
p=mv

The Attempt at a Solution


i used the kinetic energy and tried to solve for v. v=√0.098/(0.5)(0.04). i got an answer of 2.2m/s which is incorrect
 
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What you are given is the KE before the collision. When you used KE = (1/2)m1 v2 to find v, you found the speed of m1 before the collision, not after. You need to relate the speed before the collision to the speed after the collision. How can you do that?
 
Ki=kf ?
 
That's one equation. There is another that holds for all collisions.
 
kuruman said:
That's one equation. There is another that holds for all collisions.
M1v1+m2v2=m1v1f+m2v2f

Except I don't have either speed after the collision. Would I need to use both equations and Isolate one variable and sub it back into the other equation to to solve for one?
 
emily081715 said:
Would I need to use both equations and Isolate one variable and sub it back into the other equation to to solve for one?
That's exactly what you need to do.
 
What was your reasoning?
Have you never seen a Newton's Cradle?
[edit: never mind - you are being helped already]
 

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