Two wave superposition with different wavelength , amplitude and frequ

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The discussion revolves around the superposition of two waves with different wavelengths, amplitudes, and frequencies, represented by the equations u1(x,t) and u2(x,t). The original poster seeks to demonstrate that amplitude modulation occurs in this scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to combine the two wave functions but expresses uncertainty about relating the amplitudes A1 and A2. They mention a method found online but feel it may not apply due to the complexity of the variables involved.
  • One participant suggests using a right triangle to relate the amplitudes, proposing to express A1 and A2 in terms of a resultant amplitude A and an angle θ.
  • Another participant explores expressing the combined wave in terms of a resultant amplitude and angles, questioning the utility of their derived expression.
  • Further, a participant proposes using vector representation of the amplitudes to find the angle of the resulting vector, indicating a potential method to analyze the problem.

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Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's complexity, particularly regarding the relationship between the amplitudes and the implications of the different wave parameters. The original poster expresses a lack of confidence in their approach, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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Homework Statement


Hi

Two wave superposition with different wavelength , amplitude and frequency

u1(x,t)=A1cos(k1x+w1t)
u2(x,t)=A2cos(k2x+w2t)

a)Show that an amplitude modulation is obtained

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The Attempt at a Solution



u=u1+u2=A1cos(k1x+w1t)+A2cos(k2x+w2t)

and now i don't know what to do, is there any way to relate A1 and A2

I searched in the internet and I found Fresnell method which can solve it for two waves of the tipe:
u1=u2=A1cos(w1t)
u2=A1cos(w2t)=A1cos(w1t+phi)

but in my case I don't think I can do that because there are 2 variables in the cos


Its my first post so thanks
pd: sorry for my bad english
 
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Try this: Draw a right triangle with the length of one leg equal to ##A_1##, the length of the other leg equal to ##A_2##, and with hypotenuse equal to ##\sqrt{A_1^2+A_2^2}##. Then express ##A_1## and ##A_2## in terms of ##A## and an angle ##\theta##, appropriately defined. That might get it into a form you can more easily work with.

I'm just making a suggestion. I haven't actually worked the problem out, so the suggestion may not turn out to be useful.
 
Expresing in terms of A=√A21+A22

I arrive to the expresion

u(x,t)=(A/sinθ)(tan(θ)cos(k1x+w1t)+cos(k2x+w2t)) I don't see how it can help :/ but thanks

Maybe I can prove that there's a Amplitude modulation without merging the cos
 
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I think i found a way to solve it so if i make two vectors where A1 and A2 is the module of each vector I just have to sum them and then find the angle of the resulting vector.

Where θ1=k1x-w1t
θ2=k2x-w2t
u1=A1cosθ1
u2=A2cosθ2

And alfa=(θ1-θ2)/2+θ2=θ1+θ2/2
 

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