U Of Toronto vs UBC in physics graduate school (condensed matter theory)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice between the University of Toronto (U of T) and the University of British Columbia (UBC) for graduate studies in physics, specifically in condensed matter theory. Participants explore the implications of university rankings and personal preferences in selecting a graduate program.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a discrepancy between QS rankings, which place UBC significantly higher than U of T, and the opinions of two professors who suggest the opposite.
  • Another participant proposes that the professors may be referring to specific specialties or the condensed matter program rather than the overall university ranking.
  • A participant shares a link to a ranking focused specifically on physics, indicating that the rankings may not reflect graduate programs but rather research output.
  • One contributor emphasizes the importance of personal assessment of each program, suggesting that factors such as faculty interactions, research interests, and program flexibility should be prioritized over rankings.
  • Considerations mentioned include the career trajectories of recent graduates, availability of peripheral programs, and lifestyle factors like cost of living and campus activities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of university rankings versus personal fit and program specifics. There is no consensus on which university is definitively better for graduate studies in physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential limitations of rankings, including their focus on research rather than graduate programs and the subjective nature of personal preferences in program selection.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective graduate students in physics considering U of T or UBC, particularly those interested in condensed matter theory and the implications of university rankings on their education and career.

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I have to choose between U of T and UBC for my physics graduate school. QS ranking places UBC(46th) much higher than U of T (100th), but two of my professors told me the other way around. any ideas about the discrepancy?

thanks~
 
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Perhaps they are speaking about a specific specialty that ranks higher? Were they referencing the school itself or the condensed matter program?
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
Perhaps they are speaking about a specific specialty that ranks higher? Were they referencing the school itself or the condensed matter program?

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2014/physics#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search=
here is the link to the ranking. it's only for physics ( not even graduate program, but research is counted)
 
Why is someone else's ranking of the programs that important to you?

When faced with this kind of decision it's important that you assess each program according to what's important for you. Generally that means speaking with faculty, particularly potential graduate advisors, and current students if you can, to get an idea for how well you are going to mesh with the program. Consider the research that's currently taking place at each institution - where is it more interesting to you? How much freedom will you have to define your own project? How much freedom do you want?
Are recent graduates from the program moving into positions that you would like to move into?

Beyond that consider peripheral factors. Are there additional peripheral programs - such as a teaching certificate program that you might want to take advantage of? Are there campus clubs/groups you'd like to join? What about cost of living and commute times?

The relative ranking of those two schools is going to have miniscule if any influence on the outcome of your career compared your performance while you are in the program, so concentrate on factors that are likely to have the best positive impact on what you do.
 

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