U-th root of 1/u as u goes to infinity is 1.

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the u-th root of 1/u as u approaches infinity. Participants explore the validity of various mathematical expressions and limits involving two parameters, n and m, as they tend toward infinity.

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  • One participant questions the validity of the limit expression, suggesting that the limit of the u-th root of 1/u as u approaches infinity equals 1.
  • Another participant asserts that the limit of the u-th root of u/u is 0, challenging the initial claim.
  • Some participants propose that the limit should be evaluated by considering the behavior of n and m as independent variables, leading to different outcomes based on their relationship.
  • A later reply emphasizes that simply converting two independently varying parameters into a single parameter is not valid without proper justification.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate how different relationships between n and m can lead to divergent limits.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the limit of the u-th root of 1/u, with some asserting it approaches 1 and others claiming it approaches 0. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

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Participants highlight the importance of the relationship between the parameters n and m, noting that their independent variation can significantly affect the limit outcomes. There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the limits being discussed.

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Is this true? [tex]n,m\in\mathbb{N}[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n\to\infty}\sqrt[n]{\lim_{m\to\infty}\frac{1}{m}}=\lim_{n\to\infty}\lim_{m\to\infty}\sqrt[n]{\frac{1}{m}}=\lim_{u\to\infty}\sqrt<u>{\frac{1}{u}}=1</u>[/tex]
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lukaszh said:
Is this true? for n,m in N:

limn -> ∞√n limm -> ∞1/m = limn -> ∞limm -> ∞√n/m = limu -> ∞√u/u = 1?

No, that's completely wrong from start to finish (in particular limu -> ∞√u/u is obviously 0).

What were you trying to do? :confused:
 


tiny-tim said:
(in particular limu -> ∞√u/u is obviously 0).

No, u-th root of 1/u as u goes to infinity is 1.
 


Gosh, I wish the LaTex were working!
 
lukaszh said:
No, u-th root of 1/u as u goes to infinity is 1.

oh :rolleyes: … did you mean
limn -> ∞(limm -> ∞1/m)1/n = limn -> ∞limm -> ∞m1/n = limu -> ∞u1/u = 1?
 


Well, lukaszh:
You can't just take two INDEPENDENTLY VARYING parameters, n and m, and convert them into i single parameter!

To see that let m=n^n.

Then, the n-th root of m equals n, and the limit of this as n goes to infinity, is infinity.

Another example. Let m=a^n, where a is some fixed number.

In this case, the limit equals a!

What you need to do if you want to prove the convergence of some expresssion as the two parameters to infinity, is that that limit holds, IRRESPECTIVE of how n and m individually increases towards infinity!
 

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