UK Moon Sighting: Was the Halo Real or Atmospheric?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the observation of the moon in the UK, particularly focusing on the presence of a halo surrounding it. Participants explore whether this phenomenon is a result of atmospheric conditions or other factors, including optical illusions and the moon's position in its orbit. The conversation includes personal observations and scientific explanations related to atmospheric effects and light pollution.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants noted the brightness of the moon and its three-lobed halo, questioning if it was due to atmospheric effects.
  • One participant shared their experience of the moon's appearance as it rose, describing it as larger and brighter due to optical illusions and reference points on the horizon.
  • Another participant mentioned the elliptical orbit of the moon, suggesting that its distance affects its angular size in the sky.
  • A participant explained that the halo is produced by six-sided ice crystals in high-altitude clouds, refracting moonlight and creating a characteristic halo radius of 22 degrees.
  • Some participants expressed that while the moon is enjoyable to observe, it can contribute to light pollution, which affects deep-sky observations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on the cause of the halo and the effects of the moon's brightness. While some agree on the atmospheric contributions, others emphasize optical illusions and the moon's position. No consensus has been reached regarding the primary cause of the observed phenomena.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors such as atmospheric clarity, light pollution, and the moon's elliptical orbit, but these aspects remain unresolved and depend on specific conditions and definitions.

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Did anyone in the uk see the moon last night ? it was so bright, and seemed
to have a three lobed halo surrounding it, is this just atmospherics ?
 
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I'm not from the UK, but I watched the moon occult Spica last night.
 
Its an interesting question because it sometimes happens to look larger or brighter but the only thing coming in my brain is the atmosphere's gases causing the light to get some diffrences but I'm not sure and I'll be waiting eagerly for an answer...:)
 
It was very spectacular. I saw it as it just popped over the horizon where it was a deep orang colour and it gradully got brighter as it rose higher above the horizon. The fact it appears larger is due to it rising on the horizon with houses and other points of reference etc. when the moon is high in the sky and has no points of reference (other than stars) it appears smaller. This is all an optical illusion such as the two bars of the same length between the tapering rails. The one at the widest point of the rails appears to be longer even when you know it isn't.

The moon can appear bigger in the sky though. As we all know it has an elliptical orbit and when its at its closest point it has its greatest angular size and at its furthest point it has the smallest angular size.

I wish I'd taken some pictures of it because as you say the moon was so bright it cut through the haze perfectly but left this amazing halo.
 
Unfortunately, as great as the Moon is to watch, most astronomers call that light pollution. I saw a Moon halo myself the other night, similar to a Sun halo.

The circular halo is produced by six-sided ice crystals in thin high-altitude clouds, which refract the moonlight and give the halo a characteristic radius of 22 degrees. NASA
 
brightness due to it being a near-full moon (and perhaps atmospheric clarity?)

halo effects due to the Earth's atmosphere

Unfortunately, as great as the Moon is to watch, most astronomers call that light pollution.
But a tolerable kind. Deep-sky observing is best done at moonless times (so the glare of the moon does not wash out the dimmer objects). But exploring the moon can be great fun to an astronomer too (easy, clear, lots of interesting features & details).
 

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