Undeflected electron beam velocity and orbital radius in crossed fields

  • Thread starter Thread starter jena
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Beam Velocity
Join the discussion
Registration is free. Ask a follow-up in this thread, or start your own.
4 replies · 21K views
jena
Messages
74
Reaction score
0
Hi,

My Question:

What is the velocity of a beam of electrons taht go undeflected and magnetic fields of magnitude 8.8 x 10^3 V/m and 3.5 x 10^.9 T, respectively? what is the radius of the electron orbit if the electric field is turned off?

My Work:

V= E/B
V=(8.8 x 10^3 V/m)/(3.5 x 10^.9 T)
V=2.51 x 10^-6 m/s

and for the radius

r=mv/qB
r=(9.11 X 10^-31 kg)(2.51 x 10^-6 m/s)/(1.6 x 10^-19 coul)(3.5 x 10^-3 T)
r= .004m

Are these correct :confused:

Thank You :smile:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
jena said:
My Question:

What is the velocity of a beam of electrons taht go undeflected and magnetic fields of magnitude 8.8 x 10^3 V/m and 3.5 x 10^.9 T, respectively? what is the radius of the electron orbit if the electric field is turned off?

My Work:

V= E/B
V=(8.8 x 10^3 V/m)/(3.5 x 10^.9 T)
V=2.51 x 10^-6 m/s
If B = 3.5 x 10^9 T (not 10^.9), and there is an electric field of 8.8e3 V/m, both perpendicular to the direction of v, and to each other, your answer is correct, although that seems like a very slow electron beam (it is very strong magnetic field). I would check the given values again. (You are using 3.5 x 10^-3 T in the next part, which works out to v = 2.51 x 10^6 m/sec). You should show your reasoning as well: e.g.
For a straight line path, force = 0 so [itex]q\vec{v} \times \vec{B} = q\vec {E} => v =E/B[/itex]

and for the radius

r=mv/qB
r=(9.11 X 10^-31 kg)(2.51 x 10^-6 m/s)/(1.6 x 10^-19 coul)(3.5 x 10^-3 T)
r= .004m
Where do you get 3.5 x 10^-3 T?. Again, show your reasoning and you won't be confused:
Centripetal force is supplied by the Lorentz force:[itex]F_c = mv^2/r = qvB[/itex] so [itex]r = mv/qB[/itex].
AM
 
going right, (calculation part not seen.)
 
Hi,

I'm sorry for replying so late but I recalculated the answer for the question as asked by Andrew Mason

If B = 3.5 x 10^9 T (not 10^.9), and there is an electric field of 8.8e3 V/m, both perpendicular to the direction of v, and to each other, your answer is correct, although that seems like a very slow electron beam (it is very strong magnetic field). I would check the given values again.

and came up with 2.51 x 10^12 m/s, is this answer resonable.

Also for the second portion of the question:

What is the velocity of a beam of electrons taht go undeflected and magnetic fields of magnitude 8.8 x 10^3 V/m and 3.5 x 10^.9 T, respectively? what is the radius of the electron orbit if the electric field is turned off?

I can still use this equation

r=mv/qB

and come up with the right answer?

Thank You:smile:
 
jena said:
and came up with 2.51 x 10^12 m/s, is this answer resonable.
Unfortunately, this is faster than the speed of light i.e. it is not reasonable. You should provide us with the magnetic field value. I suspect it is 3.5 x 10^(-3) T. based on your answer in the second part. If that is the case, the speed should be 2.51 x10^6 m/sec which is a reasonable value.

r=mv/qB

and come up with the right answer?
Of course. But you have to use the correct value for v. If you substitute v = E/B,

[tex]r = mE/qB^2[/tex]

AM