Undergraduate Physics: Mid-Level Schools for REU's

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying mid-level universities suitable for undergraduate research experiences (REUs) in physics. Participants share their perspectives on the importance of research opportunities and the types of institutions that may provide beneficial experiences for students planning to attend graduate school.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that research experience should not be limited to formal programs and emphasize the value of small institutions with engaged faculty.
  • One participant mentions the importance of knowing the state of residence to identify suitable in-state public universities as potential options.
  • Another participant proposes that attending a teaching-focused institution may be advantageous, allowing students to gain research experience through summer REUs.
  • Specific schools are mentioned, including Allegheny College and CUNY's Macaulay Honors College, which may offer supportive environments for undergraduate researchers.
  • Concerns are raised about larger universities with graduate programs potentially prioritizing graduate students over undergraduates in research opportunities.
  • A participant shares their personal experience attending a small liberal arts college and successfully completing multiple REUs, highlighting that physics can be studied at various institutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best type of institution for gaining research experience, with some advocating for smaller colleges and others suggesting larger universities with graduate programs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which approach is superior.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and preferences, which may not universally apply. The discussion includes varying assumptions about the nature of research opportunities at different types of institutions.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students interested in pursuing research opportunities in physics, particularly those considering graduate school, may find this discussion relevant.

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im not asking for the top ten but for a decent list of mid-level schools. I am planning on grad school so i want to have a good amount of REU's completed.
 
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Research experience shouldn't be isolated to a program, if you're actually passionate about it. Personally, I'd stick with a small program that would have professors interested in having undergrads research. That's just my idea, if I were to restart my life and be a Physics major.
 
kingdomof said:
Research experience shouldn't be isolated to a program, if you're actually passionate about it. Personally, I'd stick with a small program that would have professors interested in having undergrads research. That's just my idea, if I were to restart my life and be a Physics major.

as they say, its never to late ;)

do you know in particular of any school off the top of your head?
 
Knowing what state you're from would help, because your in-state public universities would be a good starting point.

I will disagree with kingdomof a bit, though, and say that it may be better to attend a teaching-focused institution and to pick up your research experience through summer REUs.
 
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las3rjock said:
Knowing what state you're from would help, because your in-state public universities would be a good starting point.

I will disagree with kingdomof a bit, though, and say that it may be better to attend a teaching-focused institution and to pick up your research experience through summer REUs.


I live in NJ. I really don't want to go to Rutgers, though.
 
las3rjock said:
Knowing what state you're from would help, because your in-state public universities would be a good starting point.

I will disagree with kingdomof a bit, though, and say that it may be better to attend a teaching-focused institution and to pick up your research experience through summer REUs.

Well, I'm in an "Honors College" program, where it was easy to place me with a researcher. I'm also a Biochem person, so I can sort of handle an hour wait between steps in a lab protocol and study/read. It really depends if you're so passionate about research, that you'd be willing to go that far.One of the schools I applied to, Allegheny College, might pique your interest. I was more interested in the Neuroscience/Biochem faculty, however. You also would want to check out CUNY's Macaulay Honors College program. Some of the colleges offer free housing and whatnot, also they're focused on setting science majors up with researcher. That's what I'm doing. RPI is a very competitive school for research, but it's a very nice place. Rose-Hulman might be another good choice for you. Like I said earlier, I don't know much about Physics.
 
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Universities with graduate programs have more professors focused on research, but tend to give most of their time and projects to graduate students. Smaller colleges will have smaller departments, but the professors are still doing research and now they don't have graduate students. I attended a small liberal arts college and did 3 REUs, including one of the top programs in the country. You can study physics almost anywhere and then go on to graduate school. Find a college you like, in a place you want to live, that has a prof or two working in a field that interests you.
 

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