Understanding Anti-Symmetric Tensor Expression

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The discussion focuses on the interpretation of the anti-symmetric tensor expression A_{[a [b]} C_{c]}. Participants debate whether to first anti-symmetrize indices a and b, followed by b and c, resulting in a specific formulation, or to treat the expression as a single anti-symmetrization over indices a and c while leaving b unchanged. The correct interpretation is clarified as requiring anti-symmetrization over indices a and c only, with index b remaining fixed, which is denoted by A_{[a|b|} C_{c]} for clarity.

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Dear guys,

Have you ever met this kind of tensor expression?

[tex]A_{[a <b>} C_{c]} </b>[/tex]

That is, indices [tex]a, b[/tex] are anti-symmetric, and indices [tex]b, c[/tex] are anti-symmetric as well. I am confused by this, should I think this expression as: I anti-symmetrise indices [tex]a, b[/tex] first, and then antisymmetrise indices [tex]b, c[/tex]? this would result in

[tex]\frac{1}{4} (A_{a b} C_{c} - A_{b a} C_c - A_{a c} C_{b} + A_{c a} C_{b})[/tex]

But, if I think of this expression by the meaning that I would get a minus sign whenever I exchange [tex]a, b[/tex], as well as I exchange [tex]b,c[/tex]. In this way, what I get should be

[tex]A_{[ab} C_{c]}[/tex]

So, which one is correct? I'm really confused...
Thanks for your help!
 
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Probably they mean that you antisymmetrize over the indices a and c only, while the index b is left unchanged.
 
xepma said:
Probably they mean that you antisymmetrize over the indices a and c only, while the index b is left unchanged.
Thanks for your discussion.
But, no, in that case the expression is written as

[tex]A_{[a|b|} C_{c]}[/tex]

where the index [tex]b[/tex] is enclosed by two bars, [tex]| |[/tex].
 

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