Understanding Charge Distribution in Capacitors: One Plate or Both?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of charge distribution in capacitors, specifically addressing whether to use the area of one electrode or both when calculating capacitance and charge. Participants explore the implications of charge density and the behavior of electric fields in parallel plate capacitors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether to use the area of one electrode or both when calculating capacitance, suggesting that both plates should contribute due to charge density on each.
  • Another participant asserts that the area of one plate is used, prompting a request for clarification on the reasoning behind this approach.
  • It is proposed that charge migrates to one side of the capacitor, with the other side being polarized but not conducting, leading to the conclusion that only one plate's area is relevant for calculations.
  • Participants discuss the formula for charge density, noting that it is derived from the charge on one plate divided by the area of that plate.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding whether the total charge calculated using Q=C*V represents the charge on one plate or both, questioning if it should be halved.
  • Another participant clarifies that the charge refers to the magnitude of charge on one plate, emphasizing that the sum of charges on the inside faces of a parallel plate capacitor equals zero.

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There is no consensus on whether to use the area of one plate or both in calculations. Participants present differing views on the implications of charge distribution and the interpretation of charge in relation to capacitance.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the application of formulas and the interpretation of charge in the context of parallel plate capacitors. The discussion highlights potential confusion over the relationship between total charge and charge on individual plates.

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Hello all,

I have a simple question about capacitors. We are learning about them in class and in some questions, I seem to come up with different answers than the solution sets, always by 2. I apparently am using the area of each plate in a capacitor to derive my results.

My question is when working with capacitors, does one use the area of one electrode or both?

I expected to use both as I believe there would be charge density on both electrodes.

Thanks in advance.
 
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chopnhack said:
My question is when working with capacitors, does one use the area of one electrode or both?

Area of one plate .
 
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Vibhor said:
Area of one plate .
Can anyone explain why? Is it possibly because charge migrates to one side with the other side simply being polarized, but not conducting? I seem to recall that there is no flow through the capacitor, rather a push and pull if you will, on either side.
 
Area of a parallel plate capacitor comes in picture while deriving its capacitance . Charge density is given by Charge on one plate divided by area of that plate .
 
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Vibhor said:
Area of a parallel plate capacitor comes in picture while deriving its capacitance . Charge density is given by Charge on one plate divided by area of that plate .
It's a bit tricky. So when calculating capacitance, if we are offered the total area of both plates, we would need to divide by 2?

Here are two sample questions that I have answered correctly according to the answer guide:

A 15-pF capacitor has a potential difference of 1.50 V between its plates. What is the magnitude of charge on each plate?
A: 2.25x10-11C

But the question asks for the charge of each plate, the above was calculated using Q=C*V - is this not the total charge of the capacitor? Shouldn't the answer then be half of this? or does this go back to what you were saying, use one plate?

An electric field of 2.8 × 105 V.m-1 exists between two parallel plates each of area 21.0 cm2 and separated by 0.25 cm of air. What is the charge on each plate?
A: 5x10-9C

In this case I used σ = E ⋅ εo and took the surface charge density and multiplied it by the air gap to get the total charge.

Sorry, if I am being thick, I just want to be clear on this before proceeding in my studies.
Thanks!
 
chopnhack said:
But the question asks for the charge of each plate, the above was calculated using Q=C*V - is this not the total charge of the capacitor? Shouldn't the answer then be half of this? or does this go back to what you were saying, use one plate?

Charge means magnitude of charge on one plate .

In a parallel plate capacitor the sum of charges on inside faces sums up to zero .
 
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