Understanding Derivatives: Step-by-Step Guide to Finding f'(x) of f(x)=2

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The discussion centers on understanding the concept of derivatives, specifically for the function f(x) = 2 and related functions like f(x) = 2x and f(x) = 2x^3. Participants explore the rules of differentiation, the application of the definition of a derivative, and the implications of constant functions in calculus.

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  • Some participants assert that the derivative of a constant function, such as f(x) = 2, is zero because constants do not change.
  • One participant introduces the formal definition of a derivative, suggesting that it can be derived using the limit definition.
  • Another participant explains how to differentiate polynomial functions, providing examples like f(x) = 2x and f(x) = 2x^3, and outlines the steps involved in applying the power rule.
  • There is a suggestion that rewriting f(x) = 2 as f(x) = 2x^0 can also lead to the conclusion that the derivative is zero.
  • Some participants clarify and correct earlier statements regarding the derivatives of polynomial functions, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying the power rule.
  • A later reply discusses the informal interpretation of the derivative as a measure of the rate of change of a function, particularly for constant functions.

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Participants generally agree that the derivative of a constant function is zero. However, there are multiple approaches and explanations presented, and some participants express uncertainty about the steps involved in differentiation.

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Some participants reference the need for a deeper understanding of differentiation rules and the application of the limit definition, indicating that there may be gaps in foundational knowledge among some contributors.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about calculus, particularly those struggling with the concept of derivatives and the differentiation of polynomial functions.

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I don't understand this concept very well. So suppose I want to find the derivative of the function f(x)=2. is the answer just zero?

what if I want to find f'(x)=2x, or f'(x)=2x3?

please explain how to get the answer step by step, is there some equation I use or something? I just don't get it!
 
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Yes, the derivative of a constant is zero...because a constant does not change.

Let me ask you, are you familiar with the definition:

$$f'(x)\equiv\lim_{h\to0}\frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}$$ ?

It is from this definition that the rules of differentiation are derived. Have you used this "first principle" to differentiate simple functions?
 
coolbeans33 said:
I don't understand this concept very well. So suppose I want to find the derivative of the function f(x)=2. is the answer just zero?

what if I want to find f'(x)=2x, or f'(x)=2x3?

please explain how to get the answer step by step, is there some equation I use or something? I just don't get it!

$$f(x) = 2$$ is always $$f'(x) = 0$$.. -->$$ f(x) = 3$$ --> $$f'(x) = 0$$

$$f(x) = 4 --> f'(x) = 0$$ Derivative of any number goes to zero. (Read the chapter in your book over derivatives.)

If you want to derive $$2x$$, you now have a variable with 2x. Variables derive to 1. so if you had $$f(x) = x$$, then $$f'(x) = 1$$. So, if you have $$f(x) = 2x$$, then $$f'(x) = 2$$. because $$2$$(derivative of x, which is 1) = $$2$$. (Because $$(2)(1)=2$$.)

Suppose you have $$f(x) = 2x^3$$. Multiply the exponential by the base, then take the exponential and subtract 1. $$f(x) = 2x^3 $$ --> $$f'(x) = 6x^2$$ Here is another example $$f(x) = 4x^3--> f'(x) = 12x^2
$$

One More.
$$f(x) = 100x^{1000}$$
$$f'(x) = 100000x^{999}$$

Of course I have explained it in the simplest of terms. MarkFL and the rest will be able to expand on derivatives in a more technical and detailed way. Also remember

$$f(x) = \pi^2 $$
$$f'(x) = 0.$$
 
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Hello,
Or you could rewrite $$f(x)=2$$ as $$f(x)=2x^0$$ right? Cause $$x^0=1$$. and if we derivate we get $$f'(x)=0•2x^{-1} <=> f'(x)=0$$. Depends if you read in university or high school.. If you read in university you should check look at MarkFL comment and we can help you if you need to understand!

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
shamieh said:
$$f(x) = 2x^3 $$ --> $$f'(x) = 6x$$
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Just to make sure that he don't missunderstand, he forgot in the derivate $$x^2$$ so $$f(x)=2x^3$$ Then $$f'(x)=6x^2$$
Or let's say c is a constant $$f(x)=c^n$$ Then $$f'(x)=n•c^{n-1}$$
BUT there is some rule for like derivate $$f(x)g( x)$$ but I asume that you have not learned that just to make sure that you think derivate works like that always:)

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
Petrus said:
Just to make sure that he don't missunderstand, he forgot in the derivate $$x^2$$ so $$f(x)=2x^3$$ Then $$f'(x)=6x^2$$

Exactly, typo on my part. Lol good clarification.
 
coolbeans33 said:
I don't understand this concept very well. So suppose I want to find the derivative of the function f(x)=2. is the answer just zero?

what if I want to find f'(x)=2x, or f'(x)=2x3?

please explain how to get the answer step by step, is there some equation I use or something? I just don't get it!

let's find (somewhat) formally, the derivative of $f(x) = 2x^n$, and then I'll answer your first question informally.

By definition:

$\displaystyle f'(x) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h}$

$\displaystyle = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{2(x+h)^n -2 x^n}{h}$

$\displaystyle = \lim_{h \to 0}\frac{2x^n + 2nx^{n-1}h + \cdots + 2nxh^{n-1} + 2h^n - 2x^n}{h}$

$\displaystyle = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{2h(nx^{n-1} + \cdots + nxh^{n-2} + h^{n-1})}{h}$

(all the terms in the "..." part contain a factor of $h$)

$\displaystyle = \lim_{h \to 0} 2nx^{n-1} + h(\text{other terms})$

$ = 2nx^{n-1} + 0\ast(\text{who cares?}) = 2nx^{n-1}$.

However, for $n = 0$ there is an easier way:

If $f(x) = 2$ (for ALL $x$), then:

$\displaystyle f'(x) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h}$

$\displaystyle = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{2 - 2}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{0}{h} = 0$.

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Informally, the derivative $f'(a)$ measures the rate of change (or SLOPE) of the function $f$ at the point $a$. If $f$ is a constant function, it never changes, it remains constant, so its rate of change is 0 (no change) at every point $a$.
 

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