Understanding Eigenvalues in Matrix Construction from Differential Equations

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The discussion focuses on constructing a 2x2 matrix from a second-order differential equation and the implications of swapping columns on eigenvalues. Swapping columns results in different characteristic polynomials and eigenvalues, raising the question of how to determine the correct variable assignments for the matrix columns. A suggested approach involves using the column swap matrix C to modify the equation Ax = y without losing its validity, specifically by right-multiplying the equation. The validity of this operation hinges on the property that C multiplied by itself results in the identity matrix, allowing for the correct manipulation of the matrix equation. Understanding these operations is crucial for accurately determining eigenvalues in the context of differential equations.
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Let's say that I have to construct a 2 X 2 matrix from a second-order differential equation, turning it into a system of first order linear equations, and find its eigenvalues. I'll have two variables that correspond to the two columns in the matrix.

If I swap columns, I end up with two different characteristic polynomials, and thus different sets of eigenvalues (this is the problem). How do I know which variable should correspond to the first column, and which variable should correspond to the second column?
 
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If you switch the columns, you switch the order of the variables.
 
You spent a course learning linear arithmetic, so use it. :wink:

Swapping columns is a matrix operation: if you started with the equation

A x = y

and you want to replace A with AC, where C is the column swap elementary matrix... i.e.

<br /> C = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 1 &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />

Can you think of any way to modify the equation Ax=y (without changing its validity!) to make a C appear somewhere in it? (Preferably just to the right of the A)
 
Thanks for the replies :)

Hurkyl said:
You spent a course learning linear arithmetic, so use it. :wink:

Swapping columns is a matrix operation: if you started with the equation

A x = y

and you want to replace A with AC, where C is the column swap elementary matrix... i.e.

<br /> C = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 1 &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />

Can you think of any way to modify the equation Ax=y (without changing its validity!) to make a C appear somewhere in it? (Preferably just to the right of the A)

My math professor helped me out this morning, and I found out that if I have a second order differential equation corresponding to an equation y(t), and I let dy/dt = v, then the "rule of thumb" is to let the coefficient matrix A have its first column correspond to the variable y and let the second column correspond to the derivative of y(t), v (this way I know which coefficients in A to subtract \lambda from). But now I want to know what you're talking about! So I'll take a shot at your question :)

I believe your question is, how can I place the column swap matrix C into the equation Ax = y, without the equation losing its validity. To do this, I believe I would multiply both sides of Ax = y by C, such that C appears between A and x, and to the left of y. So I would have ACx= Cy. I worked this out on paper and I see that this does indeed swap the columns in A and the rows in y, which wouldn't change my answer, so it works out. Please let me know if I'm mistaken.
 
hotcommodity said:
I believe your question is, how can I place the column swap matrix C into the equation Ax = y, without the equation losing its validity. To do this, I believe I would multiply both sides of Ax = y by C, such that C appears between A and x, and to the left of y. So I would have ACx= Cy. I worked this out on paper and I see that this does indeed swap the columns in A and the rows in y, which wouldn't change my answer, so it works out. Please let me know if I'm mistaken.
That doesn't quite work -- remember that the operations you have available are "left multiply" and "right multiply"... so you can't just insert it anywhere you want.

The method I was hinting at is this idea: If I want to right-multiply A by C, I can undo that by right-multiplying by C-inverse. In this case, the inverse of C is itself, so I have the following derivation:

Ax = y
A (CC) x = y
(AC) (Cx) = y

The procedure you used shouldn't work in general: if Ax=y, then usually ACx=Cy will be false. In fact, that implies:

ACx = Cy
ACx = C(Ax)
ACx = CAx
(AC - CA) x = 0

so it will only work when the solution for x happens to be a nullvector of (AC - CA).
 
Hurkyl said:
Ax = y
A (CC) x = y
(AC) (Cx) = y

I see, so this works out because C*C = I, where I would be the 2 X 2 identity matrix, and AI = A.
 
hotcommodity said:
I see, so this works out because C*C = I, where I would be the 2 X 2 identity matrix, and AI = A.
Right. And if you did a more complicated column operation to A, you can hopefully work out what happens to x to neutralize it.
 

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