Understanding Expectation Value in Quantum Mechanics: A Closer Look

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The discussion centers on the concept of expectation value in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing the mathematical representation of expectation values for position and energy operators. The equations for expectation values, = ∫ r P(r) d[SIZE="1"]3r and = ∫ Ψ*(r) r Ψ(r) d[SIZE="1"]3r, are explored, highlighting discrepancies when applying the energy operator H = ih∂/∂t. The expectation of an operator is defined as <Ψ|H|Ψ>, with the initial equations holding true only under specific conditions. Participants seek clarification on the apparent inconsistencies in results when applying these equations to the energy operator.

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We all know the concept of expectation value,it is the average of all possible outcomes of an experiment. Mathematically average of x is written as (Σnkxk / Σnk ). Quantum-mechanically nk is represented by probability density(P), where P = ∫Ψ*Ψ d3r,
then <r> = ∫ r P(r) d3r -----------(1)
or <r> = ∫ Ψ*(r) r Ψ(r) d3r--------(2) (normalisation condition)
but when we consider expectation value of Energy operator (= ih∂/∂t) the two equations ,to me, not give the same results. Can anybody solve what’s that dilemma and where I am wrong
 
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GAGS said:
We all know the concept of expectation value,it is the average of all possible outcomes of an experiment. Mathematically average of x is written as (Σnkxk / Σnk ). Quantum-mechanically nk is represented by probability density(P), where P = ∫Ψ*Ψ d3r,
then <r> = ∫ r P(r) d3r -----------(1)
or <r> = ∫ Ψ*(r) r Ψ(r) d3r--------(2) (normalisation condition)
but when we consider expectation value of Energy operator (= ih∂/∂t) the two equations ,to me, not give the same results. Can anybody solve what’s that dilemma and where I am wrong


The expectation of an operator H is defined as <\Psi|H|\Psi>. The form (1) above holds only under special circumstances.

Note: H = ih∂/∂t is the energy operator only when expressed in the position representation.

Pete
 

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