Understanding Exponent Rules: The Confusion of (-8)^(2/6)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the expression (-8)^(2/6) and the confusion surrounding the application of exponent rules. Participants explore different approaches to simplifying the expression, considering both real and imaginary number implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that simplifying the exponent leads to (-8)^(1/3) = -2, which is supported by a calculator.
  • Another participant argues that not simplifying the exponent results in the sixth root of (-8^2), yielding a positive 2, and mentions a symbolic proof related to squares.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that simplifying first is correct, but acknowledges that taking the sixth root of a negative number is undefined, leading to a "loss of information" if squared.
  • One participant attempts to manipulate the expression by splitting it into components but finds that this approach complicates the problem further, especially when considering imaginary numbers.
  • Another participant challenges the manipulation of square roots, stating that the property \sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab} requires at least one of a or b to be positive, indicating a restriction on the operations performed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to simplify the exponent first, with some supporting simplification leading to a negative result and others advocating for a different interpretation that yields a positive result. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the treatment of negative bases and the implications of imaginary numbers, as well as the conditions under which certain mathematical properties hold.

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hello.i have a weird problem.

(-8) ^ (2/6) = ?

my first instinct was to simplify the exponent, which yields (-8) ^ (1/3) = -2.
this is the answer the calculator gives as well.
but someone pointed out if you don't simplify that exponent, you have the sixth root of (-8^2), which would give you positive 2. they mentioned something about the symbolic proof of squares...

i always thought you would simplify first, but maybe I'm wrong?

this is confusing.
 
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How about

-1 = i^2 = i*i = sqrt(-1)*sqrt(-1) = sqrt(-1*-1) = sqrt(1) = 1? :)
 
Hmm I can see the confusion that you see. I think simplifying it is correct in this case though I have tried looking at it in other ways. Well first of all, if you try to take the 6th root, it will obviously be undefined. Similarly, you can't just square because you'll get a "loss of information" which results in 2, which I think is incorrect provided that simplifying first is the correct way.

Now I did try splitting it into (-1)(1/2)(2/3)(8)(2/6). Unfortunately, this leads to more or less worse problems. If I try anything but take the square root of -1 first in the first term of the product, I would get 2 as an answer. Of course taking the square root of -1 first would take this problem into the realm of imaginary numbers. Perhaps someone else could give a better reason for simplifying first.
 
NoMoreExams said:
How about

-1 = i^2 = i*i = sqrt(-1)*sqrt(-1) = sqrt(-1*-1) = sqrt(1) = 1? :)

That kind of manipulation is forbidden. You can't just multiply like that. [tex]\sqrt{-1}\sqrt{-1} \neq \sqrt{(-1)^2} = \sqrt{1}[/tex]

In fact I think to use the property [tex]\sqrt{a}\sqrt{b} = \sqrt{ab}[/tex], at least one of a, b must be positive.
 
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