Chain rule for variable exponents

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The discussion revolves around the application of the chain rule in calculus, particularly in differentiating functions with variable exponents, such as exponential functions. Participants explore the differences between the power rule and the chain rule, and how to correctly apply these rules to functions like e^-3x and e^-3x^2.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about applying the chain rule to e^-3x, initially suggesting an incorrect application of the power rule.
  • Another participant clarifies that the power rule applies only when the variable is in the base, while e^-3x is an exponential function where the exponent is a variable expression.
  • Several participants reiterate the correct differentiation rule for exponential functions: the derivative of e^u is e^u multiplied by the derivative of u.
  • A participant mentions using the constant multiple rule to differentiate -3x, resulting in -3.
  • Another participant poses a question about differentiating an expression where the exponent itself has an exponent, such as e^-3x^2, leading to a discussion on applying the chain rule correctly in that context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the application of the chain rule and the distinction between power functions and exponential functions. However, there is some initial confusion regarding the correct application of these rules, particularly in the context of variable exponents.

Contextual Notes

Some participants clarify the rules of differentiation, but there are unresolved questions about specific cases, such as when the exponent itself is a function of x. The discussion does not reach a consensus on all aspects of applying the chain rule to variable exponents.

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I understand that when you use the chain rule you multiply the exponent by the number in front and then reduce the power by 1. So the derivative of 2x^3 = 6x^2
I'm confused now however on how you would solve something like e^-3x, the answer turns out to be -3e^-3x

Am I missing a rule? Why isn't it -3xe^(-3x-1) ?

Thanks in advance
 
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As you've seen, the power rule for differentiation is: ##\frac{d}{dx}x^a = ax^{a-1}##
But that's only the case when the variable is raised to an exponent that's a constant. In ##e^x## the exponent itself is the variable, making it an exponential function.
The basic rule for exponential functions is: ##\frac{d}{du}e^u = e^u\frac{d}{du}u##

For your example:
Substituting ##u## for ##-3x##, we get ##\frac{d}{du}e^u = e^u\frac{d}{du}u##
But ##\frac{d}{du}u## is ##\frac{d}{dx}-3x## which becomes ##-3##
So the original equation is: ##\frac{d}{dx}e^{-3x} = -3e^{-3x}##
 
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kolleamm said:
I understand that when you use the chain rule you multiply the exponent by the number in front and then reduce the power by 1. So the derivative of 2x^3 = 6x^2
I'm confused now however on how you would solve something like e^-3x, the answer turns out to be -3e^-3x

Am I missing a rule? Why isn't it -3xe^(-3x-1) ?
You are using a rule (the power rule) where it isn't applicable.
Power rule: ##\frac d {dx} x^n = nx^{n - 1}##
In a power function, the variable is in the base. The exponent is a constant (or at least is treated as a constant as far as the differentiation is concerned.)

##e^{-3x}## is an exponential function, not a power function. Here the base is a constant, and the exponents is a variable or a variable expression.
Drakkith said:
The basic rule for exponential functions is: ##\frac{d}{du}e^u = e^u\frac{d}{du}u##
Not quite.
##\frac{d}{dx}e^u = e^u\frac{du}{dx}##
Drakkith said:
For your example:
Substituting ##u## for ##-3x##, we get ##\frac{d}{du}e^u = e^u\frac{d}{du}u##
Correcting the above, we have ##\frac{d}{dx}e^u = e^u\frac{du}{dx} = e^{-3x} \cdot -3 = -3e^{-3x}##
Drakkith said:
But ##\frac{d}{du}u## is ##\frac{d}{dx}-3x## which becomes ##-3##
So the original equation is: ##\frac{d}{dx}e^{-3x} = -3e^{-3x}##
 
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Mark44 said:
You are using a rule (the power rule) where it isn't applicable.
Power rule: ##\frac d {dx} x^n = nx^{n - 1}##
In a power function, the variable is in the base. The exponent is a constant (or at least is treated as a constant as far as the differentiation is concerned.)

##e^{-3x}## is an exponential function, not a power function. Here the base is a constant, and the exponents is a variable or a variable expression.
Not quite.
##\frac{d}{dx}e^u = e^u\frac{du}{dx}##
Correcting the above, we have ##\frac{d}{dx}e^u = e^u\frac{du}{dx} = e^{-3x} \cdot -3 = -3e^{-3x}##
Did you use the power rule to calculate the derivative of the exponent?
 
kolleamm said:
Did you use the power rule to calculate the derivative of the exponent?
No, I used the constant multiple rule. That is, ##\frac d{dx} kx = k##, so ##\frac d{dx}(-3x) = -3##.
 
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Mark44 said:
No, I used the constant multiple rule. That is, ##\frac d{dx} kx = k##, so ##\frac d{dx}(-3x) = -3##.
Ah okay , what if the exponent had an exponent? For example if it was -3x^2
 
kolleamm said:
Ah okay , what if the exponent had an exponent? For example if it was -3x^2
Use the chain rule form of the derivative of an exponential function, which @Drakkith wrote (and I modified slightly):
##\frac d{dx}\left(e^{-3x^2}\right) = e^{-3x^2} \frac d{dx}(-3x^2) = e^{-3x^2} \cdot -6x = -6xe^{-3x^2}##
 
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