Understanding Free Fall: Debunking Common Misconceptions

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The discussion revolves around the physics of free fall, specifically analyzing various statements regarding momentum and kinetic energy of an object in free fall on Earth. Participants are exploring misconceptions related to the effects of gravity and the relationships between time, distance, momentum, and kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of different statements about momentum and kinetic energy in the context of free fall. They discuss the implications of constant acceleration due to gravity and how it affects velocity and energy. Some participants seek clarification on the relationships between time and distance in the context of the statements provided.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering insights and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationships between kinetic energy and velocity, as well as the nature of momentum in free fall. Multiple interpretations of the statements are being explored, particularly regarding which answers may be correct.

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Participants note the absence of relevant equations in the original post, which may be impacting the clarity of the discussion. There is also mention of standard physics assumptions regarding gravitational acceleration being approximately constant at 9.8 m/s².

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Homework Statement



  1. An object is in freefall on Earth. Which of the following statements is true?
    1. A) The object is gaining an equal amount of momentum for each second it is in free fall.
    2. B) The object is gaining an equal amount of momentum for each meter it falls.
    3. C) The object is gaining an equal amount of kinetic energy for each meter it falls.
    4. D) The object is gaining an equal amount of kinetic energy for each second it falls.
    5. E) The object is gaining an equal amount of speed for each meter it falls.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The answers say that the right answer is C. While I understand that there is a constant acceleration of gravity "g," I understand that for each second, there will be an increase in velocity of 9.8. This makes C incorrect, as they say for each meter, and not for a second that the object falls.

Could anyone please explain why each particular answer is wrong, and why C is right?

Thanks!
 
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Think about how much you weigh on the ground floor of a building versus how much you weigh on the third floor? What does this say about the force (thinking like Newton) the Earth apples to you? What did Newton say about masses and forces?
 
RoboNerd said:
I understand that for each second, there will be an increase in velocity of 9.8.
That's true.

RoboNerd said:
This makes C incorrect, as they say for each meter, and not for a second that the object falls.
How does a statement about each second relate to C, which is about each meter?

Hint: What does conservation of energy tell you?
 
RoboNerd said:
The answers say that the right answer is C.
C is correct, but it's not the only correct choice.
 
Paul Colby said:
Think about how much you weigh on the ground floor of a building versus how much you weigh on the third floor? What does this say about the force (thinking like Newton) the Earth apples to you? What did Newton say about masses and forces?
I weigh less on the third floor than on the ground floor. This means that the force of gravity is weaker as according to Newton F = m * acceleration.

Doc Al said:
How does a statement about each second relate to C, which is about each meter?
Hint: What does conservation of energy tell you?

Conservation of energy shows that my potential energy per meter is converted to kinetic energy per meter.
Namely: mg ( 1 meter ) = (1/2) * m * v^2.

So thus, I now see why C is right. Which other answers are also right, as there is more than one right answer?
 
RoboNerd said:
Which other answers are also right, as there is more than one right answer?

I note you don't list any relevant equations. Since most of the questions ask about momentum or KE wouldn't it be good to cite the basic equations/definitions for momentum and KE?

Are you also familiar with the equations of motion for constant acceleration?
 
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Are you also familiar with straight line graphs and what they mean? eg If the graph is a straight line it means there is a linear relationship. For example (Question C) a plot of KE vs Displacement would be a straight line.
 
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RoboNerd said:
Which other answers are also right, as there is more than one right answer?
You tell us! :smile:

(Follow CWatters' advice.)
 
RoboNerd said:
I weigh less on the third floor than on the ground floor. This means that the force of gravity is weaker as according to Newton F = m * acceleration.

While what you say is true, I believe the standard physics class assumption is that the gravitational field on the ground is approximated by a constant ##9.8m/s^2##. In this limit isn't A true since ##\frac{d mv}{dt} = m\frac{dv}{dt} = \text{constant}##
 
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Paul Colby said:
While what you say is true, I believe the standard physics class assumption is that the gravitational field on the ground is approximated by a constant ##9.8m/s^2##. In this limit isn't A true since ##\frac{d mv}{dt} = m\frac{dv}{dt} = \text{constant}##
Yes, I think you can safely assume a constant acceleration.
 
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CWatters said:
Are you also familiar with the equations of motion for constant acceleration?
Yes.
Paul Colby said:
While what you say is true, I believe the standard physics class assumption is that the gravitational field on the ground is approximated by a constant 9.8m/s29.8m/s29.8m/s^2. In this limit isn't A true since dmvdt=mdvdt=constant
Yes. This means that A is true.

RoboNerd said:
B) The object is gaining an equal amount of momentum for each meter it falls.
Let's examine this one. If an object falls, its velocity will vary due to the constant acceleration of gravity. However momentum is p = m * v, so the force of gravity is going to cause an Fg = dp/dt, the change in momentum with respect to time, not with respect to distance dy, so I think this answer is wrong.

We already identified C as the right answer.

RoboNerd said:
D) The object is gaining an equal amount of kinetic energy for each second it falls.
This might be true. For each second, we have a constant acceleration, which leads to the gaining of the same amount of velocity, which is related to kinetic energy. Thus increasing velocity at a constant rate would increase K.E. at a constant rate as well.

RoboNerd said:
    1. E) The object is gaining an equal amount of speed for each meter it falls.

Obviously not true. The object is falling down with an increasing speed per second due to increased acceleration, so over time, it will zip through a one meter time frame much quicker and gain less speed through that.

What do you all think about my thoughts?
 
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RoboNerd said:
Yes. This means that A is true.
Good.

RoboNerd said:
Let's examine this one. If an object falls, its velocity will vary due to the constant acceleration of gravity. However momentum is p = m * v, so the force of gravity is going to cause an Fg = dp/dt, the change in momentum with respect to time, not with respect to distance dy, so I think this answer is wrong.
Good.

RoboNerd said:
This might be true. For each second, we have a constant acceleration, which leads to the gaining of the same amount of velocity, which is related to kinetic energy. Thus increasing velocity at a constant rate would increase K.E. at a constant rate as well.
Careful here. Does an equal increase in speed mean an equal increase in KE? Play with few numbers and test that reasoning. (Try comparing the change in KE in going from 5 m/s to 10 m/s to the change in going from 10 m/s to 15 m/s.)

RoboNerd said:
Obviously not true. The object is falling down with an increasing speed per second due to increased acceleration, so over time, it will zip through a one meter time frame much quicker and gain less speed through that.
Good.
 
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Doc Al said:
Careful here. Does an equal increase in speed mean an equal increase in KE? Play with few numbers and test that reasoning. (Try comparing the change in KE in going from 5 m/s to 10 m/s to the change in going from 10 m/s to 15 m/s.)

Nope, it will not.
 

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