Understanding Friction: Formula and Meaning Explained

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the formula for friction, specifically the components involved in the frictional force equation, and the distinctions between static and kinetic friction. The original poster seeks clarification on the meaning of the formula and its elements.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definition of normal force and its relationship to gravity, as well as the coefficients of static and kinetic friction. Questions arise regarding the calculation of normal force in different scenarios, such as horizontal surfaces versus ramps.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided explanations regarding the friction formula and its components, while also addressing the differences between static and kinetic friction. There is ongoing inquiry about the relationships between forces and coefficients, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some participants question the assumptions about normal force and its dependence on the surface orientation, as well as the definitions of static and kinetic forces in relation to friction.

-Physician
Messages
85
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


What's the friction's formula, and what do the formula pieces mean, thanks :)


Homework Equations



none

The Attempt at a Solution



none
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You should be able to look this one up elsewhere on the internet, but:

F_{friction}=N\mu
N=normal force
\mu=coefficient of friction

Normal force is the force exerted on an object from the surface in contact. This is the force that prevents my hand from phasing through a wall when I push on it. In many cases, normal force is the force that pushes an object upward due to the force of gravity, though it is not limited to only this.

Coefficient of friction is the constant that defines the slickness between two surfaces. The higher the coefficient of friction, the more friction there is between two surfaces. The number is unique to the surfaces in contact, so the coefficient of friction will not be the same between a piece of paper and a plank of wood, and a piece of paper and concrete.

I hope I have provided an explanation that was in-depth as you hoped for.
 
I searched in google and you just completed the information but 1 more question, i heard about static/kinetic force and static/kinetic coefficient , what are those? And would the normal force be ##N=G=mg##?
 
Static friction is the frictional force between a stationary object and a surface. Kinetic frictional force is between a moving object and a surface. The corresponding coefficients go with the respective type of friction. In most cases, the frictional force is referring to kinetic, such as an object sliding down a ramp or any other surface. Most of the time a friction question will specify which type of friction is acting upon an object. If it is not specified, you will need to figure out what type is acting on the object. (note: wheels use static friction)
 
And would the normal force be N=G=mg?
Normal force is equal to the force pushing against a surface. If the surface is horizontal, then N=mg. If it is a ramp, N=mgcosθ. Like I had said before, normal force isn't always gravity, but in more cases than not it is.
 
thank you very much
 
Always a pleasure to help.
 
Sorry, 1 more question would Normal force would be static force divided by static coefficient ? and same thing with kinetic force and coefficient ?
##N=\frac{F_s}{μ_s}##

##N=\frac{F_k}{μ_k}##
 
If you know both Fs and \mus, then I don't see why not. I find calculating normal force this way rare, but like I said, if you know both, then go for it.
You said you have other questions, send me a link to the thread in a pm and I will see how I can help, assuming you weren't talking about this one.
 
  • #10
Okay this is the last question , is Kinetic Force equal to Force of friction ?##F_k = F_f##
 
  • #11
-Physician said:
Okay this is the last question , is Kinetic Force equal to Force of friction ?##F_k = F_f##

I assume that you meant "kinetic friction" not "kinetic force". F_{f} will equal what ever force of friction is acting on the object at that moment. If the object is moving, F_{f}=F_{k}, while if the object is stationary but a force is attempting to move it, F_{f}=F_{s}.
 
  • #12
Oh, I got it now, thanks!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
1K
Replies
43
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
Replies
11
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
694
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K