Understanding generating sets for free groups.

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The discussion centers on the proposition regarding free groups, specifically that if a free group F is generated by two sets U and V of equal cardinality, then F is also freely generated by V. The example provided, F_2 = = , illustrates that both {a,b} and {a,ab} serve as free generating sets. Participants agree that while the intuition suggests this proposition holds true, formal proof is necessary to address potential technicalities, particularly when considering infinite generators and the implications of cardinality on free generation.

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I was thinking about the following proposition that I think should be true, but I can't pove:

Suppose that F is a group freely generated by a set U and that F is also generated by a set V with |U| = |V|. Then F is also freely generated by V.

This is something that I intuitively think must be true when considering examples I have come across e.g( F_2 = <a,b> = <a,ab> with {a,b} and {a,ab} both free generating sets). Does anyone know if this is true?
 
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I guess if F is generated by V, then you can write any element of U as a word in V in one and only one way.
So you can easily translate the word u1u2...un by translating all the ui separately and stitching it back together. It feels like you are right that this should lead to a formal proof, though you may need to take care of some of the technicalities.
 
note that if the numbr of generators is infinite then there are many generatin sets of the same cardinality but not all are free. Also a free set of elements of the same cardinality may not generate the whole group.
 

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