Understanding Measure Zero and Countable Additivity for Rational Numbers

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The discussion centers on the concepts of measure zero and countable additivity in relation to rational numbers. It establishes that a set A has measure zero if it can be arranged in a sequence indexed by positive integers, which applies to countable sets like rational numbers between 0 and 1. The irrational numbers, being uncountable, cannot be sequenced in this manner, thus demonstrating that countable sets possess measure zero. The principles discussed are aligned with the axioms of measure theory, particularly as noted in texts like Royden's.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of measure theory concepts, specifically measure zero.
  • Familiarity with countable and uncountable sets.
  • Knowledge of sequences and their indexing by positive integers.
  • Basic grasp of the axioms of measures, including countable additivity.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the concept of measure zero in detail, particularly in the context of Lebesgue measure.
  • Explore the differences between countable and uncountable sets, focusing on examples beyond rational and irrational numbers.
  • Learn about the implications of countable additivity in measure theory.
  • Read Royden's "Real Analysis" for a deeper understanding of sequences and their properties in measure theory.
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Mathematicians, students of real analysis, and anyone interested in the foundations of measure theory and its applications in understanding rational and irrational numbers.

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A book I'm reading says:

If a set A has infinitely many points which can be arranged in a sequence [itex]a_1,a_2,\cdots,[/itex], then A has measure zero.

What does it mean by "can be arranged in a sequence"? The book gives an example on the set A which is all the rational numbers between 0 and 1. Why can't irrational numbers be arranged in a sequence?
 
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yifli said:
A book I'm reading says:

If a set A has infinitely many points which can be arranged in a sequence [itex]a_1,a_2,\cdots,[/itex], then A has measure zero.

What does it mean by "can be arranged in a sequence"? The book gives an example on the set A which is all the rational numbers between 0 and 1. Why can't irrational numbers be arranged in a sequence?

I think the point is that a sequence is indexed by the positive integers, so the set of all members of the sequence is countable. The rationals are countable, so we can put them into a one-to-one correspondence with the positive integers, giving us our sequence. The irrationals are uncountable, so we can't do the same thing with them. Bottom line: countable sets have measure zero.

Is this from Royden? I remember he did strange things with sequences, when really countability is just about a bijection with the positive integers.
 
One of the axioms for measures is countable additivity: so if A is a sequence a1, a2, ... then

μ(A) = μ({a1}) + μ({a2}) + ...

If my measure is zero on individual points, then any countable set also has zero measure.
 

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