Understanding Nested Ordered Pairs: Properties & Examples

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Nested ordered pairs are a way to model tuples in set theory, where elements are structured within each other, such as (a1, (a2, a3, ..., an)). This notation indicates that the second element can itself be an ordered pair, allowing for more complex structures while still maintaining the properties of an ordered pair. The discussion highlights confusion around the notation and the concept of nesting, emphasizing that the outer pair can contain another ordered pair as its second element. The relationship between the elements is clarified through examples, illustrating how nested ordered pairs can represent tuples effectively. Understanding this concept is crucial for grasping more advanced topics in set theory and mathematics.
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One way of modeling tuples in set theory is through nested ordered pairs. A notation I'm not familiar with (I'm assuming it means that the following elements are nested into the last one) is used. (a1, a2, a2,... an) = (a1(a2, a3,..., an)). I have never seen the second "(" in the latter part of the equation. My question is what is a nested ordered pair? What are its properties? How can the second element in the latter part of the equation, have lots of elements; while, the whole thing still be an ordered pair? Nested generally means something in something, and an ordered pair is a couple or two tuple, but I can't seem to put the two together.

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I've spent about 30 minutes searching and I still can't find a definition.[/B]
 
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I have never seen that notation before. I have seen the ordered pair defined as the un ordered pair (a, (a, b)).
The point is simply that the un ordered pair (a, (a, b)) tells you that there are two objects, a and b, and that a is being treated differently from b since it is named twice.
 
I would guess it means as ##(a_1, (a_2, (a_3, (...))))##. This is an ordered pair. The second element is an ordered pair. The second element of that is an ordered pair...
Having written that I did a quick search and found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple#Tuples_as_nested_ordered_pairs. This adds the interesting clean-up of making the the innermost ordered pair ##(a_n, \phi)##, which is neater than finishing with ##(a_{n-1}, a_n)##.
 
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