Understanding of electrochemistry

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of batteries heating up when short-circuited, with a focus on the electrochemical principles involved. Participants explore personal experiences with batteries, the conditions under which they heat up, and the potential for creating fire using batteries and conductive materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls a past experience where a battery became very hot when in contact with metal objects, seeking an explanation for this occurrence.
  • Another participant identifies the situation as a short circuit, explaining that connecting the positive and negative terminals with metal can cause the battery to heat up quickly.
  • A further reply suggests that if the battery does not heat up, it may indicate a broken connection or that the battery is dead.
  • After further experimentation, one participant successfully creates a short circuit using a paperclip, questioning the possibility of igniting a fire with a battery and paperclip.
  • Another participant references an external video that demonstrates creating fire from a battery and discusses the role of the battery's internal components in this process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of short circuits causing batteries to heat up, but there is no consensus on the specific mechanisms or conditions that lead to fire creation.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about battery conditions and the materials used in experiments are not fully explored, and the discussion does not clarify the specific electrochemical processes involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electrochemistry, battery technology, and practical applications of electrical circuits may find this discussion relevant.

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just wondering. i remember once i had a battery, some change, and my keys in my pocket and eventually i reallized the battery got really really hot. just for the heck of it i tried to get that to happen again and it didnt work. can someone explain why this happenned before?

i tried putting a penny on the - end and connected it to the + end with my keys. and i tried it the other way around too but didnt work. i guess my keys are made of zinc and copper.

edit: or would this just take a long time? cus i don't feel like sitting there for 2 hours. i was just trying to further my understanding of electrochemistry
 
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Short circuit is a key word here.
 
If you make a connected path of metal between the + and - terminals, that's a short circuit and the battery will heat up noticeably. Probably within a half a minute. If that does not happen, either the connection was broken somewhere or possibly the battery is already dead.
 
ok i tried it again with a paperclip and it worked in like a few seconds. is it possible to create a fire with a battery and paperclip?
 

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