Corrosion data using Electrochemistry

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of electrolyte pH on the corrosion rate of Iron in an electrochemical process, specifically comparing lab experiments to industrial conditions. The focus includes the measurement of potential differences and the implications for corrosion and electrochemical dissolution.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Experimental/applied
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the lab experiment conditions are comparable to those in the plant due to differing potential measurements (3-4 V in the plant vs. 6-7 V in the lab).
  • Another participant asserts that the potentials must be identical to ensure valid comparisons, emphasizing the importance of matching both potential difference and current density.
  • A follow-up inquiry seeks clarification on the actual potential difference between electrodes in the lab, suggesting that it may be higher than 7 V based on the described setup.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the experimental setup, referencing a standard three-electrode system and indicating difficulty in translating the described system to this model.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of matching experimental conditions, particularly potential and current density. However, there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the potential measurements and the specifics of the experimental setup.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of potential measurements and the specific configurations of the electrodes in both the lab and plant settings. The discussion does not clarify how these differences might affect the corrosion processes.

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Hi,

I am a Chemical Engineer but a novice in electrochemistry; hence the query might sound very basic to everyone.

We have an industrial electrochemical process (With Iron anode) and we are conducting a lab experiment to understand what is the effect of electrolyte pH on corrosion rate of Iron (this will include corrosion + electrochemical dissolution). The experiment involves using electrolyte at different pH values galvanostatically in a stirred cell (using a potentiostat) on a known weight of Fe electrode and measuring the weight loss after a period of 2-3 hours of galvanostatic operation. The working electrode in the lab is of course, the Anode (Fe).

My issue relates to the potential being measured in the lab. In our plant, the potential difference between our electrodes is between 3-4 V. In the lab experiment, the potential measured by the reference electrode is close to 6-7 V.

This makes me question :
a) Is our lab experiment at all happening under the same conditions as the plant? Since the potential is different, the corrosion/passivity reactions occurring on the lab Fe electrode might be very different from the plant.
b) If a) is right, do I need to ensure that the voltage in the lab stirred cell is close to the voltage in the plant.

Thanks,
Sgta
 
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You need these potentials to be identical, no doubt about it. Actually to be sure you should work on having both potential difference and current density (A/cm2) similar to the production set up.
 
Thanks Borek. I agree with your current density point too and are working towards it. Another question: 3-4 V is the potential difference between our electrode whereas 6-7 V is the potential measured for the working electrode i.e. it is the difference between the Anode and the solution. This means that the actual potential difference between the working and counter electrode in the lab is higher than 7 V. Is that right ?
 
Sorry, but I have problems following your description. In the electrochemistry world that I worked for a short time over 20 years ago we often used three electrodes setup:

- working electrode (be it anode or cathode, that depends on the system researched)

- reference electrode (one that is used to measure the potential of the working electrode)

- counter electrode (AKA auxiliary electrode) which is just a current sink - reference electrode is way too delicate to survive huge currents.

I am not sure I am able to translate your system to this one.
 

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