Understanding Oiler's Approach to the Zetha Function: A Math Book Review

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The discussion revolves around Euler's approach to the Zeta function, as presented in a math book titled "The Music of the Prime Numbers." Participants explore the transformation of the Zeta function using prime factorization and Euler's product formula, addressing both understanding and terminology challenges related to the mathematical concepts involved.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about Euler's representation of the Zeta function and the transition from the series to the product form, seeking clarification on the reasoning behind it.
  • Another participant provides a proof involving the product of primes and the series representation, suggesting it is a straightforward method to derive Euler's product formula.
  • A different participant questions the notation and signs used in the proof, indicating a need for clearer explanations or resources.
  • Concerns are raised about potential errors in the proof found in external resources, with one participant suggesting a correction regarding the conditions under which the Zeta function is defined.
  • Some participants discuss the beauty of the identity and recommend literature, such as T. Apostol's work, for further understanding of the topic.
  • There is a mention of an alternative proof approach involving the Mobius inversion formula, indicating different methods to arrive at the Euler product formula.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding Euler's product formula and its derivation. While some agree on the beauty and significance of the identity, others highlight confusion and potential errors in the proofs discussed, indicating that multiple competing views and uncertainties remain.

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Participants note limitations in their understanding of mathematical notation and terminology, which may affect their ability to follow the proofs presented. There are also references to specific steps in the proofs that are not fully resolved or clarified.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in number theory, particularly those exploring the Zeta function and Euler's contributions, as well as those seeking clarification on mathematical proofs and terminology.

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Hello.
Let me first apologize, I've been reading this Math book in hebrew and since my Math knowledge is pretty basic I'm not firmiliar with the terminology in the English lanauge, I promise to do my best tho.
The book I'm reading is called "The music of the prime numbers"(thats the hebrew name atleast, should be pretty popular one).
Maybe it is just me but this book has a tendency to sometimes show some stuff without really explaning them.
Anyway, I got to this part which I don't really understand. Oiler took the Zetha(?) function and used the fact that every number can be written as the product of prime numbers to basically write the Zetha function in a different way.
firstly the book shows an example on how you can write 1/60 using primes--> 1/2x1/2x1/3x1/5.
Than is more or less jumps to this:
Zehtha(x)= 1/1^x + 1/2^x + 1/3^x + ... + 1/n^x + ...
hope I wrote this correctly, basically its a sequence of 1/1 +1/2 + 1/3 each at the power of x.
So this is the Zetha function, and with Oilers' improvment they jump to this:
=(1+1/2^x + 1/4^x + ...)x(1 + 1/3^x + 1/9^x+...)x...x(1+1/p^x+1/(p^2)^x)+...)x...
I hope this is clearly written, mind the the Xs between the brackets are not the variable x but simply the times icon.

I have no clue if I was suppost to understand why this is true from the book or not, but I definitely don't understand this and would be happy to.

Thanks in advanced.
 
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the easiest proof is that since EVERY natural number can be written as a product of primes then

\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^{-s} = \prod _{p} \sum_{k=0}^{\infty}p^{-ks}

and \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} p^{-ks}= (1-p^{-s})^{-1})

and this last completes the proof, is the easiest method to obtain Euler's Product (they call it Oiler in pronounciation but is written Euler )
 
I'm sorry, I am not sure what some of this signs mean. Where can I get some info on that manner?
 
Gib Z said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_the_Euler_product_formula_for_the_Riemann_zeta_function

The proof under the title "another proof" is written in simple terms with none of those signs =] It's a very beautiful result.

It does look beautiful, but, I can't quite follow it in my head. One mistake in the proof is where the author writes

"When ζ(i) > 1, ..."

This should have been

"When Re(i) > 1, ..."

There might be more mistakes later on in the proof, but, if there are, I'm sure sure that they are as easy to fix as this one.

DJ
 
mhill said:
the easiest proof is that since EVERY natural number can be written as a product of primes then

\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^{-s} = \prod _{p} \sum_{k=0}^{\infty}p^{-ks}

and \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} p^{-ks}= (1-p^{-s})^{-1})

and this last completes the proof, is the easiest method to obtain Euler's Product. ...


Mhill,

I can't quite follow your first step.

I tried to see if the product operation commutes with the sum operation, but it does not look to me like it does.

Even then, I don't quite see how the prime factorization of "n" is used, but, I think it has to be.

I would like to be able to follow it. The only proof that I know right now of the Euler product formula for the zeta function is first prove the Euler product formula for the reciprocal of the zeta function and then to use the Mobius inversion formula and the fact that mu^(-1) = 1 to derive the Euler product for the zeta function.

Eshez: I got the idea for this proof from looking at Borek's thread "primes to 1" that is just about 10 threads below this one in this number theory forum. There's a link:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=240100

DJ
 
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Eshez said:
Zeta(x)= 1/1^x + 1/2^x + 1/3^x + ... + 1/n^x + ...
So this is the Zeta function, and with Eulers' improvment they jump to this:
=(1+1/2^x + 1/4^x + ...)x(1 + 1/3^x + 1/9^x+...)x...x(1+1/p^x+1/(p^2)^x)+...)x...
Thanks in advance.

That looks right to me. Except when you wrote "with Eulers' improvment" I think you meant to write
"applying Euler's equation" or "applying Euler's product formula" or something like that.

The missing step is that one then applies the formula for the infinite geometric series,

\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} p^{-ks}= (1-p^{-s})^{-1}

to the Euler product. When you do that, you get the expression you wrote above.

DJ
 
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For me, this is one of the most beautiful identities in number theory. I think a book by T. Apostol is very easy to follow, I think it's called introduction to analytic number theory. If you want to know more, I recommend it! :)
 
alyscia said:
For me, this is one of the most beautiful identities in number theory. I think a book by T. Apostol is very easy to follow, I think it's called introduction to analytic number theory. If you want to know more, I recommend it! :)

Thanks, I have a copy. I will check it out. I have never looked at his words on Euler products.

Apostol is one of my favorite math authors. He is one of the few who succeds in showing how simple it really is.

John
 

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