Understanding Orbitals to Carbon's s and p Orbitals and Hybridization

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This discussion focuses on the nature of carbon's s and p orbitals, hybridization, and their role in bonding. It clarifies that hybrid orbitals, such as sp3, are formed when s and p orbitals combine, allowing for the creation of sigma and pi bonds. The conversation also addresses misconceptions about orbital configurations, specifically the incorrect reference to a 2p3 orbital in fluorine. It emphasizes that hybridization occurs only when bonds are formed, and the number of hybrid orbitals corresponds directly to the number of orbitals combined.

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  • Understanding of atomic orbitals, specifically s and p orbitals.
  • Knowledge of hybridization concepts in chemistry.
  • Familiarity with the Pauli Exclusion Principle.
  • Basic grasp of molecular bonding and orbital overlap.
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  • Study the principles of hybridization in greater detail, focusing on sp, sp2, and sp3 hybrid orbitals.
  • Learn about the Pauli Exclusion Principle and its implications for electron configurations.
  • Explore the concept of molecular orbital theory and its relation to hybridization.
  • Investigate the role of d orbitals in hybridization, including dsp3 and d2sp3 configurations.
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hi, i have a little question about orbitals

Say that element carbon, with s, and p orbitals, does
the orbital adds up to each other, meaning is 1s orbital
inside the 2s and 2p orbitals?



If my assumption is true then how does hybrid orbitals work?
 
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Yes but when you get to the 3d orbitals the electrons are inside the 4s subshell even though the 4s subshell is already filled.
 
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Hybrid orbitals work only when bonds are made, they only require the s and p orbitals since the d orbitals are inside of both. The sp3 hybrid orbital means there s orbital has combined with one of the p orbitals to create 3 sp orbitals and one p orbital. This makes way for three sigma bonds and a pi bond.
 
thanks for the answer

here is another small question

considering BeF(2) how is there two sp hybrid orbitals
 
Since the 2s orbital of the Be is all filled up and it is bonding to the 2p3 orbital in the F two sp hybrid orbitals are created to allow the bond to happen. These orbitals are created in place of the 2s and 2p orbitals to allow the bond to occur bases on the pauli excursion principle. only one p orbital would be filled due to the bond, therefore two sp2 orbitals are created.
 
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f24u7 said:
Say that element carbon, with s, and p orbitals, does the orbital adds up to each other, meaning is 1s orbital inside the 2s and 2p orbitals?

Adds up is not the best selection of words... They overlap.
 
poopcaboose said:
Hybrid orbitals work only when bonds are made, they only require the s and p orbitals since the d orbitals are inside of both.

Not true - there are hybrid orbitals like dsp3.

The sp3 hybrid orbital means there s orbital has combined with one of the p orbitals to create 3 sp orbitals and one p orbital. This makes way for three sigma bonds and a pi bond.

Number of hybrid orbitals is always identical to the number of orbitals you combine, so you can't get 4 orbitals from 2 orbitals.

poopcaboose said:
pauli excursion principle

I am afraid parts that I have deleted were not better than assumption that Pauli went on a trip to came to the EXCLUSION principle.

No such thing as 2p3 oribital, no such configuration as 2p3 in F atom.
 
Borek said:
Adds up is not the best selection of words... They overlap.


i am a little confuse

so basically s orbital is smaller than p orbitals and overlaps with the two lobes of the

p oribital?
 
You can put it this way.
 
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Thanks for the answers
 

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