MHB Understanding Partial Fraction Decomposition in Integrals

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The discussion focuses on solving integrals using partial fraction decomposition, specifically for the integrals of two rational functions. The first integral was correctly solved, while the second integral's solution was questioned due to repeated incorrect results. Participants emphasized the importance of showing work to identify errors, particularly in the decomposition process. It was noted that formatting issues, such as the representation of the inverse tangent function, could lead to misinterpretation by software. The conversation highlights the need for careful attention to detail in both mathematical steps and formatting to ensure accurate results.
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First the example problem. This is an integral of the whole thing

(3x^3+24x^2+56x-5) / (x^2+8x+17)^2

The answer comes out to be

3/2 ln(x^2+8x+17) - (49/2 tan^-1(x+4)) - (25x+105 / 2(x^2+8x+17) + C

I would show all the steps but I'm still not sure on how to use the format tools, so that would get really messy to read.

The 'real' problem is

(3x^3+18x^2+37-4) / (x^2+6x+10)^2

Which I solve to be...

3/2 ln(x^2+6x+10)- (43/2 tan^-1(x+3)) - (25x+82 / 2(x^2+6x+10)) + C

Which is 'wrong', I keep coming back with that same answer though, and online resources seem to confirm it?

I just don't know where I'm going wrong.
 
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We can't really tell you where you are going wrong without seeing your work. :D

The first step is to obtain the partial fraction decomposition of the integrand...what did you get for that?
 
MarkFL said:
We can't really tell you where you are going wrong without seeing your work. :D

The first step is to obtain the partial fraction decomposition of the integrand...what did you get for that?

For the second problem?

(3x^3+18x^2+37-4) / (x^2+6x+10)^2 =

((3x / x^2+10x) / (x^2+6x+10)) + ((7x-4) / (x^2+6x+10)^2)

That is what you wanted?
 
Okay, the actual integrand must be:

$$\frac{3x^3+18x^2+37x-4}{\left(x^2+6x+10\right)^2}$$

You have the second term correct, but the actual decomposition is:

$$\frac{3x}{x^2+6x+10}+\frac{7x-4}{\left(x^2+6x+10\right)^2}$$

Now, I would suggest adding zero to each numerator in a form that makes integrating easier...what do you get after doing this?
 
Scratch all that noise.

My answer was 'wrong', and yes, there was a uh... 'not so kind' email over this.

Typing out tan^-1 vs using the system to make a 'tan^-1( )

You tell me if you can tell the difference, maybe I just don't see it.

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stripedcat said:
Scratch all that noise.

My answer was 'wrong', and yes, there was a uh... 'not so kind' email over this.

Typing out tan^-1 vs using the system to make a 'tan^-1( )

You tell me if you can tell the difference, maybe I just don't see it.

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For the inverse tangent function, try Arctan(x). Your input is probably making the computer read it as [tan(x)]^(-1).
 
Anything is possible.

Had a problem last week with other trig related inputs.

The examples always showed 'sinx', but if you put in 'sinx' for your answer, it counted it wrong... But only sometimes.

But it always counted sin(x) right.
 
Look at the last denominator in the incorrect submission...there is a missing $x$. :D
 

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