Understanding Percentage Growth in Price Changes

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The discussion revolves around understanding percentage growth in price changes, specifically comparing different scenarios of price increases for lollipops. Participants are examining how to correctly calculate percentage changes based on different initial and current prices.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring the correct denominator to use in percentage calculations and questioning why different examples yield different percentage values. There is an attempt to clarify the reasoning behind using the original price versus the current price in calculations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the confusion surrounding the calculations, particularly regarding the use of different bases for percentage calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to consistently apply the concept of percentage growth across various examples.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using different starting points for percentage calculations and the resulting discrepancies in percentage values when prices increase or decrease. There is a noted confusion about why a price must increase by a different percentage to return to its original value after a decrease.

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I'm trying to understand this problem.

If a lollipop costed $6 and now it costs $8, how much percent the price grow?

I think the answer is ((8-6)/8)*100=25%

So I'm trying to apply this solution to the new problem. If a lollipop costed $1, and now it costs $2, how much percent the price grow?
((2-1)/2)*100=50%, but it should be 100%.

Can anyone help me with this problems?
 
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I think you already know the answer: what must be in the denominator in order that your second example gives you 100%?

RGV
 
In the denominator should be 1. But in the first equation it should be 8. This is the part that I don't get it. I'm putting in the denominator the current price.
 
I understand what you are doing. I don't understand *why* you are doing it differently in the two examples.

RGV
 
The denominator should have the price we're calculating the percent increase/decrease for.

For your two examples, the starting prices were $6 and $1, respectively, so those are the numbers you need to use in the denominator.

On the other hand, if the price of something goes down from from $10 to $8, then the percent decrease is (10 - 8)/10 * 100 = 20 %.

If the price happened to go back up by $2, then the percent increase would be (10 - 8)/8 * 100 = 25%. The reason we're getting a different number is we're using a different base or starting point.
 
I wasn't understanding the problem because I got different percentage values. In the example of Mark44 the same price decreased 20% to pass from $10 to $8, and the increased 25% to pass from $8 to $10. Projecting my question with Mark 44 explanation, my confusion was in the different percentage values. I was thinking why a price decreases 20%, and it has to increase 25%, and not 20%, to get to the initial value? Now, I understand.
 
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xeon123 said:
I wasn't understanding the problem because I got different percentage values. In the example of Mark44 the same price decreased 20% to pass from $10 to $8, and the increased 25% to pass from $8 to $10. Projecting my question with Mark 44 explanation, my confusion was in the different percentage values. I was thinking why a price decreases 20%, and it has to increase 25%, and not 20%, to get to the initial value?

Because the amount you're multiplying the percent by is smaller.
 
xeon123 said:
In the denominator should be 1. But in the first equation it should be 8. This is the part that I don't get it. I'm putting in the denominator the current price.
That's because the answer you gave to the first problem is wrong. If the lollypop increased from 6$ to 8$ then it increased by $2 and that is 2/6= 1/3 of the original price. The price of the lollypop increased by 1/3 or 33 and 1/3 percent, NOT 25%.
 

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