Word problem equation linear growth and slope

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The discussion revolves around a linear growth problem involving transportation costs for a truck delivering lubricating oil to gas stations. The problem provides specific cost and distance data points, prompting participants to explore calculations related to costs at various distances and the relationship between cost and distance.

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  • Participants attempt to derive a linear equation based on given cost and distance values, questioning the slope and intercept calculations. There is discussion about the correctness of different values for the slope (k) and intercept (b) as calculated by the original poster and their teacher.

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Multiple interpretations of the slope and intercept have been presented, with some participants expressing confusion over the differences in calculations. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the cost per kilometer and how to approach the final part of the problem regarding costs falling below a certain threshold.

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Participants note discrepancies between their calculations and those provided by the teacher, leading to questions about the assumptions made in the problem setup. There is also mention of the need for clarification on the mathematical processes involved in simplifying fractions and solving for variables in linear equations.

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Homework Statement


truck moves oils (lubricating oil presumably) to gas stations.
At full load the truck transportation cost is 300$ when the traveling distance is 120km

and the transportation cost is 350$ when the traveling distance is 165km
At this interval, the costs change linearly. You may use calculator for aid.

a) calculate the cost when the distance traveled is 150km

b) assuming the cost and distance change linearly even beyond the original interval, calculate the new distance, for when the cost would be 1000$

c) when do the costs fall, below 2$ per kilometer

Homework Equations


k = deltay/deltax

The Attempt at a Solution



equation for straight line is of the form
Also it should be noted that the costs do actually grow, when the distance traveled actually grows... there was something fishy about the ratio though. I think we must probably find the correct constant value for the b term in the equation

y= k * x + b

k= (350-300) / (165- 120)
k= 10/9

it is said that the interval has linear growths, I think we should probe the starting value, to see what the constant b would have been

300 = (10/9) * 120 + b
b= 500/3

y=( 10/3 ) * x + (500/3)

probe for the end value in interval (assuming end point and beginnning point are within the interval)

we achieve y= 350
When the values x= 165 and k= 10/9 and b = 500/3 is used

a) cost = 333,33 , distance traveled = 150km

b) cost = 1000$ distance traveleld = 750km

c) I need help for this part I think

My teacher sent me the different answers as mine. She sent me the answers to these.
Teacher had calculated k = (350-300) / (165-120) = 9/10
Correspondingly teacher had different value for the b term.

I don't think you end up with 9/10 = 50/45 in any mathematical fashion right there... but I don't know.
I think earlier my math teacher said that brackets are calculated first.
(350-300) / (165-120) = 50/45

50/45 fraction can be shrunken without changing its value ( I don't know what the procedure is called in English language, but fractions can shown in different forms, without changing its value, when you multiply or divide both the numeratorr and denominator by the same number which would not be 0)

10/ 9 = 50/45
because 50/5= 10
45/ 5 = 9
The question clearly stated that the costs change linearly with the distance travellled.
Cost grows, and distance grows. I don't think it is possible that the cost and the distance are inversely correlated between each other.
II'm pretty confused about whether or not my teacher was correct or whether I was correct.
I could use help to the c part of the problem.

How do I make sure that I find when the cost per km, drops to below (2$ / km)?
 
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late347 said:

Homework Statement


truck moves oils (lubricating oil presumably) to gas stations.
At full load the truck transportation cost is 300$ when the traveling distance is 120km

and the transportation cost is 350$ when the traveling distance is 165km
At this interval, the costs change linearly. You may use calculator for aid.

a) calculate the cost when the distance traveled is 150km

b) assuming the cost and distance change linearly even beyond the original interval, calculate the new distance, for when the cost would be 1000$

c) when do the costs fall, below 2$ per kilometer

Homework Equations


k = deltay/deltax

The Attempt at a Solution



equation for straight line is of the form
Also it should be noted that the costs do actually grow, when the distance traveled actually grows... there was something fishy about the ratio though. I think we must probably find the correct constant value for the b term in the equation

y= k * x + b

k= (350-300) / (165- 120)
k= 10/9

it is said that the interval has linear growths, I think we should probe the starting value, to see what the constant b would have been

300 = (10/9) * 120 + b
b= 500/3

y=( 10/3 ) * x + (500/3)

There is a typo in the equation above. Can you spot it?
probe for the end value in interval (assuming end point and beginnning point are within the interval)

we achieve y= 350
When the values x= 165 and k= 10/9 and b = 500/3 is used

a) cost = 333,33 , distance traveled = 150km

b) cost = 1000$ distance traveleld = 750km
The answers to a) and b) look good.
c) I need help for this part I think

My teacher sent me the different answers as mine. She sent me the answers to these.
Teacher had calculated k = (350-300) / (165-120) = 9/10
Correspondingly teacher had different value for the b term.
Your equation is correct for finding the cost of the transport by using the distance traveled as the independent variable.

Your teacher seems to be using the cost of the trip as the independent variable, and then presumably finding the distance from that cost.
I don't think you end up with 9/10 = 50/45 in any mathematical fashion right there... but I don't know.
Of course you do. Does 50 have 9 as an even factor? Does 45 have 10 as an even factor?

If the answer to either question is a big fat No, then 9/10 ≠ 50/45

BTW, 9/10 < 1 and 50/45 > 1, so there is no way that 9/10 = 50/45
I think earlier my math teacher said that brackets are calculated first.
(350-300) / (165-120) = 50/45

50/45 fraction can be shrunken without changing its value ( I don't know what the procedure is called in English language, but fractions can shown in different forms, without changing its value, when you multiply or divide both the numeratorr and denominator by the same number which would not be 0)
This is called simplifying or reducing a fraction to the lowest terms.
10/ 9 = 50/45
because 50/5= 10
45/ 5 = 9

5 is a common factor in both the numerator and the denominator of the fraction, and common factors can be canceled out to reduce the fraction to the lowest terms.
The question clearly stated that the costs change linearly with the distance travellled.
Cost grows, and distance grows. I don't think it is possible that the cost and the distance are inversely correlated between each other.

I'm pretty confused about whether or not my teacher was correct or whether I was correct.
I could use help to the c part of the problem.

How do I make sure that I find when the cost per km, drops to below (2$ / km)?

If you take the distance traveled in the first two examples and divide that figure into the cost of the trip, you will find out how much you are spending to transport the oil on an average dollars per kilometer basis.

For example, cost = $300 and distance = 120 km, therefore the cost to distance ratio is $300/120 km = $2.50 / km

What question c) wants to know is, using your cost and distance formula, how long a trip would the truck need to take so that when the total cost is divided by the distance, that ratio, Cost / Distance, is not greater than $2/km.
 
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late347 said:
At full load the truck transportation cost is 300$ when the traveling distance is 120km

and the transportation cost is 350$ when the traveling distance is 165km
At this interval, the costs change linearly. You may use calculator for aid.
As a word of advice: making a drawing at such a point can be very illuminating !
 
my teacher got such equation for the line
cost = 0,9 * distance + 192

cost1= 327dollars at 150km
distance2 = 898km at 1000dollar--------------------------------

My own results were

Y= (10/9) x + 500/3

It can be shown in better way for addition purposes as follows
y= (10/9) X + 1500/9333,33 dollar at 150km
and 1000 dollar at 750km

I think the necessary ratio for c) part is

2 dollars / 1 kilometer = 2/1

I gleaned at my teacher's notes and it seems she did it such that

y/x = 2/1

multiply crossing in crossing fashion, (don't know what this is called in English mathematics properly)

2x = y

2x= (10/9) X + 1500/9

18x =10x+ 1500

8x= 1500
x= 187,5
 
late347 said:
my teacher got such equation for the line
cost = 0,9 * distance + 192

cost1= 327dollars at 150km
distance2 = 898km at 1000dollar--------------------------------

My own results were

Y= (10/9) x + 500/3

It can be shown in better way for addition purposes as follows
y= (10/9) X + 1500/9333,33 dollar at 150km
and 1000 dollar at 750km
You got the correct equation to figure transport cost given distance, and your math teacher's mistake is partially hidden by the fact that the slope of his equation is close to yours.
You have used the correct procedure for finding the slope, since it gives a value in dollars / km, while the slope for your teacher's equation is actually km / dollar.

As BvU suggested earlier, a picture is worth a lot of calculations.
I think the necessary ratio for c) part is

2 dollars / 1 kilometer = 2/1

I gleaned at my teacher's notes and it seems she did it such that

y/x = 2/1

multiply crossing in crossing fashion, (don't know what this is called in English mathematics properly)

It's called cross-multiplying
2x = y

2x= (10/9) X + 1500/9

18x =10x+ 1500

8x= 1500
x= 187,5
This answer is correct.
 
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