Understanding Perturbation Theory and Spin in Quantum Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of perturbation theory in quantum mechanics, specifically in the context of the ammonia molecule as presented in The Feynman Lectures on Physics Volume 3. Participants are exploring whether the methods used by Feynman align with perturbation theory or represent a different approach.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the treatment of systems as two-state systems in Feynman's work is equivalent to perturbation theory or if it is a distinct method.
  • Another participant suggests that while there are elements of perturbation theory in Feynman's approach, it is not a pure application of the method.
  • Some participants express confusion about the relationship between the methods discussed and perturbation theory, indicating a lack of clarity on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Feynman's methods are the same as perturbation theory, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the relationship between the two approaches.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and applications of perturbation theory as compared to the methods used by Feynman, which may depend on specific interpretations of the concepts involved.

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In my quest to learn quantum mechanics I've become a little confused and I have a question.
It is "In The Feynman Lectures on Physics Volume 3, is most of the work, eg. ammonia molecule done using perturbation theory or is this method something else, not perturbation theory?"
I started to learn a little about perturbation theory elsewhere, and it seemed similar but not quite the same, so I'm a little foggy about this.
 
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1Kris said:
In my quest to learn quantum mechanics I've become a little confused and I have a question.
It is "In The Feynman Lectures on Physics Volume 3, is most of the work, eg. ammonia molecule done using perturbation theory or is this method something else, not perturbation theory?"
I started to learn a little about perturbation theory elsewhere, and it seemed similar but not quite the same, so I'm a little foggy about this.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what it is that you're asking?
 
In the Feynman Lectures on Physics, Volume 3, Feynman uses a an approximation of treating systems as two state systems. Is this the same as perturbation theory, or is it a different method?
 
1Kris said:
In the Feynman Lectures on Physics, Volume 3, Feynman uses a an approximation of treating systems as two state systems. Is this the same as perturbation theory, or is it a different method?

I think the best answer, infuriating as it may be, is "yes".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perturbation_theory

You can see there are elements of it there, but it's not a pure treatment for the reasons you mention, I think.
 
Haha thanks for that, why infuriating?
 
1Kris said:
Haha thanks for that, why infuriating?

Generally people finding that the answer is "yes" to a yes or no question is infuriating. I'm glad you don't! :)
 

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