Understanding Random Variable Mapping and Probability Functions

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The discussion centers on the concept of random variable mapping and probability functions, specifically addressing the formal definition of a random variable as a measurable function from a set of outcomes, denoted as $X: \Omega \to E$. The participants clarify that to define a mapping for a random variable, one must uniquely characterize the mapping, which includes the outcome space and the probability function. An example involving two urns with red and white balls illustrates the calculation of joint distributions and the independence of random variables X and Y, representing the profits of two individuals based on the outcomes of the draws.

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  • Understanding of measurable functions in probability theory
  • Familiarity with outcome spaces and probability distributions
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Hey! :giggle:

What does it mean to give the mapping for a random variable? Do we have to give the outcome space and the probability function? Does it hold that $X: ( \Omega, P)\mapsto \mathbb{R}$ ? :unsure:
 
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mathmari said:
What does it mean to give the mapping for a random variable? Do we have to give the outcome space and the probability function? Does it hold that $X: ( \Omega, P)\mapsto \mathbb{R}$ ?
Hey mathmari!

From the wiki definition:
A random variable $X$ is a measurable function $X \colon \Omega \to E$ from a set of possible outcomes $\Omega$ to a measurable space $E$.

[...]

The probability that $X$ takes on a value in a measurable set $S\subseteq E$ is written as

$$\operatorname{P}(X \in S) = \operatorname{P}(\{ \omega \in \Omega \mid X(\omega) \in S \})$$


To give a mapping means that we need to characterize that mapping uniquely. 🤔
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Hey mathmari!

From the wiki definition:
A random variable $X$ is a measurable function $X \colon \Omega \to E$ from a set of possible outcomes $\Omega$ to a measurable space $E$.

[...]

The probability that $X$ takes on a value in a measurable set $S\subseteq E$ is written as

$$\operatorname{P}(X \in S) = \operatorname{P}(\{ \omega \in \Omega \mid X(\omega) \in S \})$$


To give a mapping means that we need to characterize that mapping uniquely. 🤔


The exercise statement is :

An urn 1 contains 2 red and 8 white balls. An urn 2 contains 4 red and 6 white balls. A ball is drawn from each urn.

(a) Give a suitable probability space.

(b) Tim receives 1 Euro if the ball from urn 1 is red. Lena receives 1 euro if the Ball from urn 2 is white. Give the mapping rule for a random variable X that describes the profit of Tim, and a random variable Y, which describes Lena's profit. Find the joint distribution of X and Y. Are X and Y independent?At (a) I have found the outcome space $\Omega =\{ (R,R), (R,W), (W,R),(W,W)\}$ and the probabilities \begin{align*}&p((R,R))=\frac{2}{10}\cdot \frac{4}{10}=\frac{2}{25} \\ &p((R,W))=\frac{2}{10}\cdot \frac{6}{10}=\frac{3}{25} \\ &p((W,R))=\frac{8}{10}\cdot \frac{4}{10}=\frac{8}{25} \\ &p((W,W))=\frac{8}{10}\cdot \frac{6}{10}=\frac{12}{25}\end{align*} At (b) we have \begin{align*}&X(R,R)=1 \\ &X(R,W)= 1\\ &X(W,R)=0 \\ &X(W,W)=0\end{align*} and so \begin{align*}&P(X=1)=P(R,R)+P(R,W)=\frac 2{25}+\frac 3{25}=\frac 15 \\ &P(X=0)=P(W,R)+P(W,W)=\frac{8}{25}+\frac{12}{25}=\frac{4}{5}\end{align*} So is the map that we are looking for the $X$, the $P$ or both of them or something completely else? :unsure:
 
The map of the random variable $X: \Omega \to \text{Euros}$ is given by what you've already found:
\begin{align*}&X(R,R)=€ 1 \\ &X(R,W)= € 1\\ &X(W,R)=€ 0 \\ &X(W,W)=€ 0\end{align*}
This fully identifies the mapping of $X$. (Nod)

The probability map is a different map that needs to be identified separately. 🤔
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
The map of the random variable $X: \Omega \to \text{Euros}$ is given by what you've already found:
\begin{align*}&X(R,R)=€ 1 \\ &X(R,W)= € 1\\ &X(W,R)=€ 0 \\ &X(W,W)=€ 0\end{align*}
This fully identifies the mapping of $X$. (Nod)

The probability map is a different map that needs to be identified separately. 🤔

Ahh ok! Thank you for the clarification! 🤩
 

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