Understanding Series Convergence

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The discussion revolves around the concept of series convergence in mathematics, exploring definitions, interpretations, and examples of convergent series. Participants engage in clarifying the meaning of convergence and how it can be understood both formally and informally.

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  • One participant questions the understanding of series convergence, asking what it means when stating that a series converges.
  • Another participant provides a formal definition of convergence, stating that a series converges if the sequence of its partial sums converges.
  • A participant expresses dissatisfaction with the formal explanation, requesting a more intuitive understanding of convergence.
  • In response, another participant explains convergence in plain terms, using examples of convergent and divergent series.
  • Further clarification is provided on the concept of convergence, emphasizing the idea of getting indefinitely close to a limit through the addition of terms.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the explanations, indicating that they now understand the concept better.

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There is some disagreement regarding the convergence of the specific series mentioned, with one participant asserting it is not convergent, while others do not challenge this assertion directly. Overall, the discussion reflects a mix of formal and informal interpretations of convergence without a clear consensus on the specific series in question.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with mathematical terminology, leading to different approaches in explaining convergence. The discussion includes both formal definitions and intuitive explanations, highlighting the complexity of conveying mathematical concepts.

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When I say a series \suma_{n} converges, what exactly is it that I am saying?
for example
\sum^{∞}_{n=1}\frac{9n^{2}}{3n^{5}+5} is convergent. what did I just say?
 
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Why would you say a series converges if you don't know what it means?

If you have taken a course dealing with sequences and series, then you should have seen a definition of "convergence of a sequence": the series \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n converges if and only if the sequence of partial sums s_i= \sum_{n= 0}^i a_n converges.

(I hope you won't say that \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{9n^2}{3n^2+ 5} is convergent. It obviously isn't.)
 
Congrats on telling me exactly what the book told . so now if you don't mind tell it to me as if I was not a person studying Mathematics .
 
BarringtonT said:
Congrats on telling me exactly what the book told . so now if you don't mind tell it to me as if I was not a person studying Mathematics .

In plain English a series is convergent if you keep adding terms of the series and it gets to a limit. For example 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... gets closer and closer to 2 as you add more terms. On the other hand 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + ... keeps getting bigger as you add more terms, so it is not convergent.
 
A series converges to a value "s" if, by adding enough terms , you can get indefinitely

close to the value s. This is made rigorous : if I want to be within, say, 1/100 of the

value s, I must show that there is a term ,say "N", so that by adding N-or-more terms,

the value of the expression: (a_1+a_2+...+a_N )-s

of the sum will be within 1/100 of the value s. Take the series 1+1/2+1/4+...

Its limit is 2. After 1 term, you are within 1 unit of the limit. After adding two terms

you are within 1/2 of the limit. Now, convergence means that I can guarantee that , no

matter how close I want to get to 2, I just need to add enough terms, and my sum

will be within this --or (almost) any other--distance from 2. We do not demand that the

sum be exactly two, but that the sum be indefinitely close to it.
 
Thank you guys very much I now understand.
 

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