Understanding Solutions of ODEs: y' = -(y^2)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of solutions to the ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by "y' = -(y^2)". Participants explore the implications of the equation on the nature of its solutions, particularly focusing on whether solutions can be zero or decreasing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to interpret the ODE "y' = -(y^2)" and seeks insight into its solutions without requesting a direct answer.
  • Another participant explains that the first derivative indicates the slope of the solution functions, suggesting that plotting the slope can provide a visual understanding of the solutions' behavior.
  • A participant acknowledges that since the first derivative is negative, the function must be decreasing, but seeks clarification on how it can also be zero.
  • One participant introduces the idea that if y is identically zero, then y' equals zero, which is consistent with the ODE.
  • Another participant reinforces that if y is not identically zero, then y^2 is positive, leading to a negative y', which implies that y is decreasing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation that if y is not identically zero, the function is decreasing. However, the discussion remains open regarding the conditions under which y can be zero, and there is no consensus on the broader implications of the ODE.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the implications of the ODE, and there are unresolved questions about the nature of solutions, particularly concerning the case when y equals zero.

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Hi Physics forums.

I saw this question in a book, I'm not asking for the answer and this is not a homework, I just don't know how to figure out this:

What can you say about a solution of the equation "y' = -(y^2)"just by looking at the differential equation?

I checked at the book's answer and it says " Its either 0 or its decreasing", how did they figured that out?, I see that ODE and I can't think in anything, how do you figure out what an ODE means just by looking at it?.
 
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The first deriviative gives you the slope of the solution functions at every point in the xy plane. A good way to get a feeling for what the solutions do is to use the given ODE to find that slope. You can plot a short line with the slope of the solutions though points on the xy plane this will give you a pretty good picture of what the solutions do.
 
Thanks, that means that as the function's first derivative is negative, its slope its also negative and therefore the function its decrecent!, that makes sense, but how can it be also zero?
 
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welcome to pf!

hi mt1200! welcome to pf! :smile:

if y is identically zero (y = 0 for all x), then y' = 0 = -02 = -y2 :wink:
 
If y is identically 0 then "-y^2" is always 0 so y' is 0 and that just says y is a constant which is consistent with y= 0.

If y is not identically 0, then y^2 is positive, -y^2 is negative, y' is negative so y is decreasing.
 

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