Understanding the concept of electron per shell

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The discussion revolves around the electron arrangement in calcium, specifically addressing the distribution of electrons across different shells and the implications of the formula for maximum electron capacity per shell. Participants explore the differences between theoretical maximums and actual electron configurations in multi-electron atoms.

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  • One participant states that calcium has an electron arrangement of 2, 8, 8, 2, but questions why the third shell does not contain 10 electrons as suggested by the formula 2n².
  • Another participant explains that the formula 2n² represents the maximum number of electrons for a given principal quantum number n, but that actual electron distribution can differ due to energy considerations in many-electron atoms.
  • Some participants clarify that the last two electrons in calcium occupy the 4s orbital rather than filling the 3rd shell to its maximum capacity.
  • A participant expresses confusion over the distinction between maximum electron capacity and actual electron configuration, seeking further clarification.
  • Another participant attempts to illustrate the concept using an analogy about apples in a box, suggesting that the maximum capacity does not always reflect the actual number of electrons present.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of the maximum number of electrons per shell and how it applies to calcium's electron configuration. There is no consensus on the clarity of the distinction between theoretical and actual electron distributions.

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The discussion touches on the complexities of electron configurations in multi-electron atoms, which may not be fully addressed within the scope of the participants' current understanding or educational context.

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Homework Statement
Is shell number same as energy level
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The maximum number of electron per shell is given as $$2(n^2)$$ where n is energy level number. And energy level is same as electron shell.
Looking at Cacium for th electron arrangements according to shell numbers is 2, 8,8,2 since Cacium have four shells.
Going by the formula
1st shell has:$$2n^2=2\times 1^2= 2 ~electrons $$
2nd shell has:$$2n^2=2\times 2^2= 8 ~electrons $$
3rd shell has:$$2n^2=2\times 3^2= 18 ~electrons $$
But unfortunately, Cacium has only twenty electrons.
I am thinking that the remaining 10 electrons should go into the 3rd energy level. But if that happens then Cacium would not be fit to still remain in period 4.
So why is the electron filling per shell for Cacium 2,8,8,2 and not 2,8,10 according to the formula giving for the maximum number of electron that can be found in a shell?
Thank you.
 
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The formula ##2n^2## gives the maximum number of electrons that can have the same principal quantum number ##n##, and given the name electron shell. However, for many-electron atoms, the energy does not only depend on ##n##. It turns out that electrons will be found in the ##n=4## shell before the ##n=3## shell is filled.
 
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Drakkith said:
That formula is for the maximum number of electrons per shell, not the actual. In calcium, the last two electrons go into the 4s orbital.
You reply makes it look like as if there two types of maximum electrons in a shell:
1. Maximum number of electron and
2. Actual maximum number of electrons.
Please I need to understand something here.
 
There aren't two maximums and I never said there were.
 
Chijioke said:
Please I need to understand something here.
I'm not sure what you are looking for. If I can put 20 apples in a box, but I only put 12 into the box, then there's the maximum number of apples per box and the actual.

The details of how electrons go into their orbitals is probably beyond the scope of your class.
 

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