Understanding the concepts of isometric basis and musical isomorphism

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of isometric basis and musical isomorphism within the context of linear algebra and vector spaces. Participants seek to clarify these terms and their applications, particularly in relation to dual bases and the properties of vector spaces.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for a simple explanation of isometric basis and musical isomorphism, particularly in relation to a specific problem involving a basis in R3 and its dual.
  • The participant describes their findings regarding the dual basis and poses questions about the definition and significance of an isometric basis and musical isomorphism.
  • Several participants inquire about the nature of musical isomorphism, with one suggesting it may be a "canonical" isomorphism, linking the term to musical forms.
  • Another participant relates musical isomorphism to the concept of rising and lowering indices, commonly referenced in physics, and mentions the sharp and flat symbols used in this context.

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There is no consensus on the definitions or implications of isometric basis and musical isomorphism, as participants are exploring these concepts and seeking clarification.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the definitions or applications of isometric basis and musical isomorphism, and there are varying interpretations of the term "musical isomorphism" itself.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals new to linear algebra, particularly those interested in the relationships between vector spaces, dual bases, and concepts from physics related to musical isomorphism.

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I want to find the isometric basis corresponding to the musical isomorphism between the vector space E = ##R^3## and its dual space ##E^* = (R^3)^*) ## .
Im very new to the terminologies of isometric basis and musical isomorphism, will appreciate a lot if someone could explain this for me in a simple way for a guy with limited experience in this field.

The concrete problem I want to figure out is this:
Given:
Let ##v_1 = (1,0,0) , v_2 = (1,1,0), v_3 = (0,1,1)## be a basis in the vector space ##E = R^3##

problem:
Find a dual basis to ##{v_1,v_2,v_3} ## in ##E^*## = ##(R^3)^*## and the isometric basis corresponding to the musical isomorphism between E and E*.

I have found the dual basis: I did this by using the property ##(v^*)^i(v_j) = \delta_{ij}##, where ##(v^*)^i## is the ith covector in the dual basis.
I represent the dual basis as a linear combination of the orthonormal basis in ##(R^3)^*##, the dual basis is then
##(v_1)^* = (1,-1,1)##, ##(v_2)^* = (0,1,-1)## and ##(v_3)^* = (0,0,1) ##

now, to my question : how is the isometric basis corresponding to the musical isomorphism between E and ##E^*## defined ?
and even more basic : what do we mean be an isometric basis, and what do we mean by a musical isomorphism, you can as well try to explain what an isomorphism is first, in simple words ;)
 
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What is a musical isomorphism?
 
fresh_42 said:
What is a musical isomorphism?
Perhaps it's a "cannonical" isomorphism, seeing as a "cannon" is a musical form.
 
fresh_42 said:
What is a musical isomorphism?
What the physicists call the rising and lowering indices. The two maps are often denoted by the sharp and flat symbols.
 

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