Understanding the Dirac Commutation Relations in QFT

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The discussion revolves around the Dirac commutation relations in quantum field theory (QFT), specifically addressing the mathematical and physical implications of the relation ##[\psi_a(x),\psi_b^\dagger(x)]=\delta^3(x-y)\delta_{ab}##. Participants are exploring the nature of the Dirac field and the interpretation of indices in the context of commutation relations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the mathematical structure of the commutation relation, particularly the treatment of indices and the nature of the Dirac field.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify that both sides of the commutation relation are indeed 4x4 matrices, suggesting that the left-hand side is not "physically wrong" as initially stated.
  • Further clarification is provided that the indices a and b are fixed and do not run from 1 to 4, indicating they specify the spin state of the Dirac field.
  • A participant questions the meaning of "fixed" indices, pointing out that the equation involves 16 fixed numbers on both sides, akin to a 4x4 matrix, and seeks to understand the representation of the Dirac 4-spinor components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach consensus on the interpretation of the commutation relations and the nature of the indices involved. There are competing views regarding the mathematical representation and physical implications of the Dirac field.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the treatment of indices in the context of the Dirac field and the implications of the commutation relations. The discussion reflects a need for further clarification on the mathematical structures involved.

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Hello! I am reading Peskin's book on QFT and at a point he wants to show that the Dirac field can't be quantified using this commutation relations: ##[\psi_a(x),\psi_b^\dagger(x)]=\delta^3(x-y)\delta_{ab}## (where ##\psi## is the solution to Dirac equation). I am not sure I understand the math behind the commutation relation (I understand why physically it is wrong) as you have a column and a raw vector, so doing the commutation you have the difference between a number and a 4x4 matrix and I am not sure how does this work. Can someone explain it to me? Thank you!
 
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Just to solve your misconception about "physically wrong", what you have on the left-hand-side is again a 4x4 matrix (has indices a,b running from 1 to 4), and similarily for the right-hand-side.
 
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ChrisVer said:
Just to solve your misconception about "physically wrong", what you have on the left-hand-side is again a 4x4 matrix (has indices a,b running from 1 to 4), and similarily for the right-hand-side.
The indeces a and b are fixed, they don't run from 1 to 4. They just specify the spin state.
 
Silviu said:
The indeces a and b are fixed, they don't run from 1 to 4. They just specify the spin state.
what do you mean by fixed? the equation has 16 fixed numbers in the left-hand-side (like a 4x4 matrix) and 16 fixed numbers in the right hand side (again like a 4x4 matrix).
The indices indicate one of the Dirac 4-spinor components:
\psi = \begin{pmatrix} \psi_1 \\ \psi_2 \\ \psi_3 \\ \psi_4 \end{pmatrix}
Why would you have vectors then for \psi_a ?
 

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